Unemployment hits 2.6m. Over 1m 16-24 year olds out of work

Generali

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I just stated I wish they would stop blaming things. Be better to not comment at all than to lazily blame the Euro.

It's an injustice to themselves. They need to look at the real reasons, as you have pointed out later in your post.

Before they were in power they actually pointed out that it's going to be tough etc. Now that they are in power, it's blaming the Euro. Unless your Obama, then it's blame the Chinese.

Politically it's a pretty tough sell, "You're poor because you're a bunch of f...-ups". Much easier to blame the bankers or the Jews or the Chinese.

IronWolf

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I do wish the party in power now would stop doing themselves the injustice of blaming whatever is going on at the time. This is a UK issue. The 1.02 million 16-24 year olds out of work is appalling.

Except for the fact this is for the period July - September, when most 16-24 year olds are on summer holidays or have just left education.

i.e. this number is almost completely meaningless.

nembot

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Totally agree.

Of course what's even more appalling is that some people still cheer on and hope for a double dip recession and rising unemployment in a misguided attempt to get a cheaper house.

Ohh f**k off Hamish, it's greedy selfish !!!!!!s like you who knew exactly what was going to happen with the economy.

Yet as long as you're alright jack, f**k everyone else!!!

Don't be coming on here blaming bears for the state of the economy, both then and now - jeez...

ILW

StevieJ wrote: »

The Eurozone is our biggest market, if they struggle, we struggle.

Concentrate on the markets that are not struggling then. Simple really.

No point in trying to sell stuff to people that have no money to pay for it.

quantic

I have worked in the training sector for the past 4 years with 16-25 year olds and can honestly say I am not surprised they are unemployed. 90% of the people we get in here are completely unemployable, we are asked to train them up and we are paid based on how many of them we get into employment...

However, these people do not need basic training - they don't have any concept of what it means to even have a routine, its like a generation which has regressed back to the caves at times... We can't even get employers to take them for free, in some cases we actually offer incentives for employers to give them a trial (unpaid) and they still won't take them.

It makes me wonder, if we have more people than ever in education and going to university and the rate of unemployment afterwards is this high it makes me wonder if this is a good thing...

Not all of this mess is down to the economy.

worldtraveller

Although the youth unemployment rate is indeed a sad situation it's still around the European average.

The rate in the EU-27 was 20.9% in 2010. In the Euro area the rate was marginally lower at 20.7 % and in the UK it was 19.6%.

In Q2 2011 the UK figure was 20.4% against the EU-27 rate of 21% and Euro area rate of 20.5%.

Therefore with the UK rate at 21.9% for Q3 2011 I would imagine it is still around the average rate for Europe, possibly very slightly higher.

Rinoa

The minimum wage for young people is too high. It needs reducing for that age range to make it worthwhile employers taking them on.

ILW

quantic wrote: »

I have worked in the training sector for the past 4 years with 16-25 year olds and can honestly say I am not surprised they are unemployed. 90% of the people we get in here are completely unemployable, we are asked to train them up and we are paid based on how many of them we get into employment...

However, these people do not need basic training - they don't have any concept of what it means to even have a routine, its like a generation which has regressed back to the caves at times... We can't even get employers to take them for free, in some cases we actually offer incentives for employers to give them a trial (unpaid) and they still won't take them.

It makes me wonder, if we have more people than ever in education and going to university and the rate of unemployment afterwards is this high it makes me wonder if this is a good thing...

Not all of this mess is down to the economy.

A few years ago I was involved in a small recruitment drive primarily aimed at school leavers and new graduates.

We set a small test to cover the basics of English and Maths as a first stage requirement.

It was shocking haw many graduates could not understand even basic punctuation and were unable to do pretty simple calculations using percentages.

quantic

ILW wrote: »

A few years ago I was involved in a small recruitment drive primarily aimed at school leavers and new graduates.

We set a small test to cover the basics of English and Maths as a first stage requirement.

It was shocking haw many graduates could not understand even basic punctuation and were unable to do pretty simple calculations using percentages.

Couldn't agree more, it is mind boggling the level of, or should I say, lack of english/maths etc. I don't even mean maths etc, life would be easy if thats all they lacked, they have no sense of how to live as an adult in the world. Its almost as if our tutors become their foster parents in some cases.

For example, some of our 20-25 year old are not capable of getting a bus to a placement, which is about 4 stops away, they cannot be trusted, they wont go if we leave them to their own devices, so we have to get the tutors to drive them to the placements otherwise they wont go, and since we cannot be in a car alone with a learner we need to take 2 members of staff for 'safe guarding', worlds gone mad!

vivatifosi

quantic wrote: »

For example, some of our 20-25 year old are not capable of getting a bus to a placement, which is about 4 stops away, they cannot be trusted, they wont go if we leave them to their own devices, so we have to get the tutors to drive them to the placements otherwise they wont go, and since we cannot be in a car alone with a learner we need to take 2 members of staff for 'safe guarding', worlds gone mad!

A question if I may quantic. Would they find that they could get the bus if their benefits were taken away or reduced (ie they are using the system to their advantage) or is it more that the people that you are working with have other issues, such as learning difficulties, that would most likely put them into the 2% "structural unemployment" that's difficult to place? Or is it something else altogether?