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Is Soreen Malt Loaf healthy?

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  • pukkamum
    pukkamum Posts: 3,944 Forumite
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    My childrens school only have at the moment a no sweets or fizzy drinks rule, however, they were doing a pack lunch survey last week, bloody typical it would be on the day when i hadn't been shopping and had to go to the corner shop so instead of the healthy cheese salad butties on brown with grapes and breadsticks, they both had peanut butter on white bread with a bag of crisps and a penguin, oh the shame!!!!!

    I do not believe in anyway that parents should be told what they can and cannot put in their kids lunchboxes (other than the no sweets) do they really think that the parents who think it is fine to give their kids just a bag of crisps and a mars bar for their pack up are going to be giving their kids healthy foods instead?
    My kids are very healthy and in no way overweight so a bag of crisps or a chocolate at lunch is not going to change that!

    I my view this all just another ploy to try and force parents into putting their kids on school dinners.
    I don't get nearly enough credit for not being a violent psychopath.
  • Oh I hate this demonising of certain foods - it is so unhealthy! Not in content but in attitude which in my view is so much more damaging. I went to an all girls high school and the food fadishness exhibited there was eye opening! All things in moderation should be the watchword and NOTHING should be banned unless it appears everyday and the idea of making such little kids feel bad about eating things is outrageous. Min are too small for school yet but if any jumped up little whatever tries this on with mine there'll be hell to pay.
  • pukkamum
    pukkamum Posts: 3,944 Forumite
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    Precisely stiltwalker my 5 yr old is now constantly asking which foods are healthy or unhealthy and telling me she will only have one biscuit as she doesn't want to get fat, all off the back of 'healthy eating week', in my view making children view foods as good or bad is so far from promoting healthy eating it's not funny, i tell her no foods are good or bad everything is fine in moderation.
    I don't get nearly enough credit for not being a violent psychopath.
  • Wish I hadn't started reading this thread for 2 reasons - because it has made me want some malt loaf now (got OH slathering butter on some as I type:D) and also cos it makes me so mad the schools that bang on so much about lunch boxes!

    Yes there are probably a few kids lunch boxes that aren't great and if it they are regularly unhealthy then the school should speak to the individual parents - not the child, and certainly not one as young as 4, no wonder we have so many people that have issues with food! But if a child has an occasional chocolate biscuit or piece of cake is it really going to hurt them? No it isn't. Telling them they can't have anything that is bad for them whilst they watch the school dinner kids tuck into jam rolly polly and custard what sort of mixed message is that giving to our kids?

    My son has jam or chocolate spread sandwiches, not every day obviously, and I give him malt loaf or home made cake too in his lunch box. But then he goes to a school that is pretty good - doesn't balk at the idea of having home made cakes at school fairs and doesn't ban everything for fear that the children might get hurt.
  • Errata
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    As a lifelong malt loaf addict, I always have to clean my teeth after I've munched on a doorstep of it. Peerhaps the school feel it's not healthy because generally children don't clean their teeth after they've eaten lunch?
    .................:)....I'm smiling because I have no idea what's going on ...:)
  • Becles
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    I think the answer is with the combination of E numbers and sugar no it isn't. I expect the yoghurt was full of sugar and artifical additives too so I don't know why they didn't pick up on that. The school ought to be clear about what they will and will not accept.

    I think the yoghurt is probably worse to be honest.

    She's currently taking Wildlife Choobs. Not the greatest of yoghurts I know, but she can't open a normal yoghurt without throwing it everywhere and I spent a small fortune on teaspoons with my boys as they kept loosing them! We have to send things they can open themselves as the dinner ladies haven't got time to help them open things.
    merlin68 wrote: »
    You'd do better sending her with carrot and cucumber sticks and baby tomatoes as grapes are high in sugar.
    Fruit and fruit juice can cause tooth decay. Your better to get your 5 a day from veg.

    I agree and she does have raw veg and salad stuff on other days. She had fruit today as I knew I was cooking a roast dinner with veg tonight.

    Sorry for making everyone crave malt loaf :D The butter comment had me giggling as well :rotfl:
    Here I go again on my own....
  • Mrs.W_2
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    kathie1101 wrote: »
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    My son has jam or chocolate spread sandwiches, not every day obviously .....

    Last year my DD's primary school became a nut-free zone. Lunch boxes that contain 'banned' items like chocolate spread are confiscated and the kids given a school dinner. The parents are then billed for the meal.
  • Buttonmoons
    Buttonmoons Posts: 13,323 Forumite
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    Glad my one doesn't go to a school like that :eek:

    In my DD's school they brush their teeth after lunch, I dunno why, but they did it at nursery too, probably because there is poor dental hygeine in the children (and it shows)

    I kid you not, but there are 2 children at DD's school that go in with a cold happy meal from mcdonalds every day, the headteacher fumes about this, but no healthy eating policy has been put in place, she has to apply to the council or something.....

    School meals here, are ridiculous! The portions are pathetic, the selection is weird (sausages and couscous?) Soup for PUDDING?! She goes mostly packed lunch, unless there is something on the menu she will eat (curry)

    Her packed lunch is usually a tuna sandwich on soy and linseed bread or falafel in a pita bread, a yoghurt, satsuma or small handful of grapes and something like a small biscuit, or even a mini roll, but sometimes she wants crackers, breadsticks or carrot sticks, I have no issue with her lunch, and if she went school dinners she'd be eating a lot more unhealthily with their massive portions of cake slathered in custard, whilst for main meals they get half the quantity of food as they do of cake!


    Oh and she never eats all her lunchbox, more often than not when I check, the sandwich/falafel has been eaten, so has the yoghurt, and she's left everything else, just on occasion she eats more. She is more of a grazer really.
  • gravitytolls
    gravitytolls Posts: 13,558 Forumite
    Becles wrote: »
    Yes - same school.

    It was just when I opened the cupboard when I was cooking tea tonight, I knocked the packet out and she said "oh don't put that in my lunchbox again Mam because I got wrong" and she explained what happened. I've only got her word, so I'm keeping an open mind at the moment, but I'll pop in and ask nicely tomorrow.

    Last week I bought sweet mince pies to eat at home and she wouldn't eat them as someone had taken one into school and they'd been told they are too fattening. That drives me insane as she's skinny and runs around like an idiot most of the time, so an odd mince pie isn't going to harm her! Persuaded her it was fine and she happily ate one.

    The rules are so confusing! There's not an official list of things that are allowed or not allowed. All chocolate and drinks are banned which is fair enough, and school provide water for them to drink.

    Crisps is a minefield as potato crisps are banned but "maize based snacks" such as Wotsits and Quavers are allowed. Children just see them all as crisps though and don't understand the difference.

    Previously she said a dinner lady checked the packet on Tesco rocket shaped crackers but nothing was said to her. I sent those with a mini tub of Philadelphia cheese as she likes dunking them. Dairylea Lunchables/Dunkers etc., are allowed without question though. I never said anything to school about that though and just told her maybe the dinner lady had never seen them before and wondered what they were.

    Then school dinner children are allowed things like sponge pudding and chocolate cake, as their lunch is provided by an outside catering company and it's nutritionally balanced by experts. Try explaining that one to a 4 year old!


    Try explaining it to a 40 year old!

    It's a ridiculous situation, one which after 'popping in' I'd be taking up with the governors, LEA, MP and quite pssibly the local rag. Not to shame the school, merely to begin the fight back against the packed lunch stasi, who believe they know more than parents do. when the school employ nutritionists to serve and supervise lunch, I reckon they may have some entitlement to comment, until then, they can keep their conks out of children's lunch boxes.
    I ave a dodgy H, so sometimes I will sound dead common, on occasion dead stupid and rarely, pig ignorant. Sometimes I may be these things, but I will always blame it on my dodgy H.

    Sorry, I'm a bit of a grumble weed today, no offence intended ... well it might be, but I'll be sorry.
  • gravitytolls
    gravitytolls Posts: 13,558 Forumite
    Becles wrote: »
    I think the yoghurt is probably worse to be honest.

    She's currently taking Wildlife Choobs. Not the greatest of yoghurts I know, but she can't open a normal yoghurt without throwing it everywhere and I spent a small fortune on teaspoons with my boys as they kept loosing them! We have to send things they can open themselves as the dinner ladies haven't got time to help them open things.



    I agree and she does have raw veg and salad stuff on other days. She had fruit today as I knew I was cooking a roast dinner with veg tonight.

    Sorry for making everyone crave malt loaf :D The butter comment had me giggling as well :rotfl:

    Course they don't, they're too busy peeking in lunch boxes than doing something useful ~ like their job.
    I ave a dodgy H, so sometimes I will sound dead common, on occasion dead stupid and rarely, pig ignorant. Sometimes I may be these things, but I will always blame it on my dodgy H.

    Sorry, I'm a bit of a grumble weed today, no offence intended ... well it might be, but I'll be sorry.
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