could i get away with this

meer53

ikati5 wrote: »

If it's hospitality involving food a little vomiting on the 23rd would mean no work until the 27th, with no sick note.... A bad back is a reliable fall back, a pulled muscle, depression, all guarantee a sick note should one be required but now you self cert for the first 7 days and some docs are hot on it. You don't get paid fro the first 3 days anyway, so I'd go for an upset tummy and Christmas off, which should be everyone's right anyway.

You sound like a responsible person - not. What would society be like if we all thought like you ?

For your information, i work for a bank, we are open on Christmas day. I don't have to work on that day, but if i was contracted to i would. I'd quite like to keep my job.

2sides2everystory

meer53 wrote: »

You sound like a responsible person - not. What would society be like if we all thought like you ?

For your information, i work for a bank, we are open on Christmas day. I don't have to work on that day, but if i was contracted to i would. I'd quite like to keep my job.

Erm, meer53, we are sure that is very admirable, but if you work for a bank you won't be on a zero hours contract and you will one hopes have a proper job with good loyalty and commitment between staff and employer both ways, and a commitment between the particular bank and their customers which is broadly understood to offer a Christmas Day callcentre service which will be reflected in your contract and your pay for working on such days.

Hardly the same thing, old boy.

What would society be like if we all thought like you?

meer53

The OP said no holidays were allowed between Xmas and New Year, my comments were aimed at the poster suggesting that it was ok for them to consider pretending they were sick to get the time off. The OP would know they couldn't have the holiday, pretending to be sick might get them the holiday but won't help when they aren't offered any hours in the future will it ? Dishonesty never pays.

Reverbe

why would you book this if you knew your company didnt allow it?? just a thought..

ikati5

meer53 wrote: »

You sound like a responsible person - not. What would society be like if we all thought like you ?

For your information, i work for a bank, we are open on Christmas day. I don't have to work on that day, but if i was contracted to i would. I'd quite like to keep my job.

If everyone thought like me, we would all get to spend Christmas at home with our families. My bank doesn't open on Saturday never mind Christmas day, I am not aware of any UK bank being open Christmas day or Boxing day or any BANK holiday.

Reverbe

ikati5 wrote: »

If everyone thought like me, we would all get to spend Christmas at home with our families. .

I'm with you on this. I have and do work in seasonal retail. Last year I was kept at work til 10.30 pm several hours after store closure to do work not remotely essential and had to then go 300 miles for half a xmas day. Back to work Boxing day.. i anticipate some type of fiasco when rota is anounced for xmas and new year at my current company ( who are not known for treating staff well)
Surely people can do without buying cards for TWO days!!!

Years ago they wanted us to work at Woolworths til 8 pm Xmas Eve but we all walked out. lol

ikati5

I feel for you Reverbe, people go into a frenzy Christmas shopping and on Boxing day are at it again. If its all irrelevant and we should all work it, why do we need so much stuff??

patman99

Ok, at least we know mer53 works for 'First Direct'. AS for the op, I'd work Christmas Day for £12 p/hr, it would be like wining the lottery.
One point of Law from my union days, Christmas Day and Boxing day are the only two bank holidays that are legally protected. This means that if you have to work them, you are entitled to full-pay + time-off in lieu (fully-paid as well).

I guess the op must work in a senior role within the care industry. If that's the case, turn-in for the shift, delegate all the days duties to the lower-ranked staff, then spend the entire day with your feet-up watching TV.

I am all for a campaign to encourage people to not go shopping on Christmas/Boxing/New Years Day. If enough people stayed at home on these days, then shops would end-up losing enough money to convince them that it was not worth their while opening, so will give their employees the day off as they should.

SarEl

patman99 wrote: »

One point of Law from my union days, Christmas Day and Boxing day are the only two bank holidays that are legally protected. This means that if you have to work them, you are entitled to full-pay + time-off in lieu (fully-paid as well).

With advice like that you should work for ACAS.

It is, of course, utter rubbish, and this has never been the law at any time since I started in it. It may have been your employers policy, but it certainly wasn't the law.

Christmas day and Boxing day are like any other bank holiday - you get 28 days statutory holiday per leave year, full stop. Any entitlement to specific days off, such as any bank holidays, are contractual. And if the employer says you have to work Christmas day, then you have to work Christmas Day. All you are entitled to in law is payment (and not at an enhanced rate).

In the OP's case, as has pointed out many times on this thread, they are entitled to refuse any hours offfered to them, and the employer is then equally entitled to fail to offer any further hours work. Their choice.

meer53

Never Knowingly Understood.

Since 2002, we've lost Johnny Cash, Bob Hope, Steve Jobs and Jimmy Saville. Now, we have no Cash, no jobs, no hope and no-one to fix it.

Just read this Patman99, i laughed out loud ! Very funny !