Civil enforcement ltd

Hadeon

Hitherto CEL have utilised the services of their pet DCA, Newlyn plc.

In view of the new tactic being employed by CEL, have they now parted company I wonder.

ripped_off_driver

Don't think that DJ opinion can be given much credibility. DJs say all sorts of things, many of them entirely wrong.

Unless the covering letter made clear that this was an example of a claim form that could be issued then a reasonable person would say that this is a breach of s40, and in any event would be a breach of CPUTR (misleading or aggressive practice).

TjW

This is interesting as I've just had my 2nd letter from Civil Enforcement and it is worded slightly differently to the one posted in the sticky.

Instead of, "Notice Before Legal Action," at the top, it now says, "Final Reminder Before Legal Action."

Also, instead of saying, "Notice will result in us SEEKING A COUNTY COURT JUDGEMENT," in the main body, it now says, "Notice will result in us ISSUING AN IMMEDIATE COUNTY COURT SUMMONS AGAINST YOU."

Here is a link to the letter: http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab94/TjW1072/Parking2.jpg

Is this another scare tactic?

notts_phil

Of course It is

proudmummy1

Hi,
I am in the same position as Kawasteve. My husband has now received his third piece of correspondance from CEL, and it is the same as the above. A claim for filled out with his details for Northamptonshire county (nowhere near where we live, or where this incident allegedly occurred), but with no court stamp or reference numbers. The letter states that as we have failed to pay our liability to them has increased to £265 and they have now have no option but to instruct solicitors to draft particulars of claim, which they intend to submit on 17.11.11.
The vehicle was parked in the carpark as they claim for 1 hour and 30 mins. This was a restaurant carpark and the vehicle was there as the driver and a friend had taken their children to the restaurant. The entire time that the vehicle was in the carpark the driver was in the restaurant. It took an hour and a half to eat as the group consisted of two adults, two four year olds and a baby. The carpark was not full, although the restaurant was quite busy as it was half term and alot of the customers were teenagers who arrived at the restaurant on foot.
The party arrived in two cars which were parked next to one another, one was privately registered to my husband. The other was a company car registered to the company. The company car has never received a ticket. There are signs at the restaurant stating that the max parking time is one hour and 15 mins, however it did not occur to either adult that this would be applicable whilst they were sat eating in the restaurant. I cannot see how it has cost CEL £150, reduced to £75 for the vehicle to have been parked on their carpark for 15 mins more than their allowed time, especially as the carpark was not full at the time. Incidentally the following week another sign was posted at the restaurant, stating that parking was limited to an hour and thirty minutes, and that the restaurant had nothing to do with the management of the company so please do not ask them to enter into any disputes. Our friend has photographed this notice.
The court papers state that they are now going to be caiming £265 plus £50 court fees and £110 solicitors costs. A total of £425, all for taking the kids for a bite to eat after swimming. Although my husband is the registered keeper of the vehicle he was not the driver at this time. I have read all of the advice on here and other similar websites, which has been very helpful, however just thought I would post to make sure anyone with similar problems would know that this is still continuing, and that it would appear the CEL have changed tactics as we have never received anything from Newlyn.

peter_the_piper

I'm wondering if a copy of the false court claim should be sent to trading standards as this should come under the unfair trading regulations. Put on a policemans uniform and you can get done for impersonation, the same should apply in this sort of instance.

Kite2010

Basically they have drafted court paperwork, but not submitted it or will ever submit it.

I hope you complained to that restaurant about getting harassed by the parking company and that you will no longer be spending money there and telling your friends, family & work colleagues to avoid.

vax2002

Kite2010 wrote: »

Basically they have drafted court paperwork, but not submitted it or will ever submit it.

I hope you complained to that restaurant about getting harassed by the parking company and that you will no longer be spending money there and telling your friends, family & work colleagues to avoid.

I think I would wait whilst the restaurant was busy and march in and very loudly produce the fake court papers and state this is why we will not be eating at this restaurant, because you and your cronies are trying to scam your customers....

mervyng2

I received a fine from civil enforcement ltd few months ago and after reading few forums on the net ive decided to ignore them. but today I've received a letter from them sayin that they intend to take the matter to Northampton County Courts. they say they wud send their claims to the court on 25th november and once judgement is obtained they wud seize my vehicle/ goods and many other things they can possibly do...

shud i continue to ignore them?

the claim form attached looks fake to me... i went on to Hermajesty government website to see the blank claim form which they used in this letter i received today. The main british emblem is missing on this letter and there is no claim number and issue date. Few bits in the form looks blurred (like scanned and pasted into the document)...

I am thinking to go to British citizenship bureau to discuss the issue. what shall i do?

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AlexisV

Hadeon wrote: »

Take a look at post #8 on the following thread from last year relating to a case OPC lost at court.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2749802

The following was the view expressed by the DJ hearing the case and is of relevance to the comments now being made here:-

Fake court papers were described as legitimate copies of papers to be prepared and that it was a valid tactic by debt collectors.

Read it and weep!

Yes, and the next judge it went in front of said he would "see them prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law" and they ended up being fined £26k by Trading Standards!

I suggest anybody who has been given fake court papers (Northampton is the bulk clearing centre for online claims), you contact each other and forward everything to Liverpool Trading Standards.