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Ilya_Ilyich

what are you babbling about. in every post you complain unprovoked about those dastardly marxists and their not allowing racism. why is it such a big issue for you

Road_Hog

Ilya_Ilyich wrote: »

what are you babbling about. in every post you complain unprovoked about those dastardly marxists and their not allowing racism. why is it such a big issue for you

There you go again, spouting off about racism. If I criticise Marxism and Left leaning controlling politics, that does not make me a racist. Criticising a political viewpoint does not make someone a racist.

You're nuts if you think that me not liking Marxists=racism. Stark raving bonkers.

FTBFun

Road_Hog wrote: »

There you go again, spouting off about racism. If I criticise Marxism and Left leaning controlling politics, that does not make me a racist. Criticising a political viewpoint does not make someone a racist.

You're nuts if you think that me not liking Marxists=racism. Stark raving bonkers.

I think it's because in your little list of bad things those evil cultural marxists did, the first point is "creation of racism offences".

Ilya_Ilyich

Road_Hog wrote: »

There you go again, spouting off about racism. If I criticise Marxism and Left leaning controlling politics, that does not make me a racist. Criticising a political viewpoint does not make someone a racist.

You're nuts if you think that me not liking Marxists=racism. Stark raving bonkers.

You're inventing arguments to argue against. Chill out bro.

My point is that racism is a real and harmful thing and of all the myriad perfectly valid criticisms of Marxist politics the one you are levelling most repeatedly and fervently is that they're anti-racist. I'm wondering if you can explain why this is such an important issue for you.

StevieJ

Reminds me of the 70's Hanna Barbera toon, Wait till your father gets home, Ralph and Whittaker looking for Cultural Commies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dAqkQGA4kM&feature=related

Road_Hog

FTBFun wrote: »

I think it's because in your little list of bad things those evil cultural marxists did, the first point is "creation of racism offences".

It's not my list, it is the Frankfurt School 11 point plan. Please don't try and pin it on me.

Road_Hog

Ilya_Ilyich wrote: »

You're inventing arguments to argue against. Chill out bro.

My point is that racism is a real and harmful thing and of all the myriad perfectly valid criticisms of Marxist politics the one you are levelling most repeatedly and fervently is that they're anti-racist. I'm wondering if you can explain why this is such an important issue for you.

There you go again, out with the racism accusation. I'm against Marxism, please stop levelling the racism allegation at me because of this. Being against Marxism does not make you a racist.

hethmar

Is it cos Im black?

Generali

Ilya_Ilyich wrote: »

You're inventing arguments to argue against. Chill out bro.

My point is that racism is a real and harmful thing and of all the myriad perfectly valid criticisms of Marxist politics the one you are levelling most repeatedly and fervently is that they're anti-racist. I'm wondering if you can explain why this is such an important issue for you.

Communism in practice didn't have such a great record against racism.

Look at how Mao (a self-proclaimed Marxist-Leninist) treated internal minorities or how Stalin (a self-proclaimed Marxist) treated Jews. I judge people by their actions rather than their words.

Marxism is murder. Pol Pot (a Marxist) killed about a quarter of his population. Mao and Stalin were each responsible for more than 20,000,000 deaths. The various leaders of North Korea (Marxist-Leninst until the mid-1970s) have managed to preside over a multi-decade long famine thanks to their mismanagement.

A._Badger

Road_Hog wrote: »

There you go again, out with the racism accusation. I'm against Marxism, please stop levelling the racism allegation at me because of this. Being against Marxism does not make you a racist.

Comrade Ilych is trolling. Comrade FTB is too lazy to read the (boring, I admit) history of cultural Marxism.