Urgent help required Unfair Dismissal

AlfonsoM

I was saked for not disclosing the details I used to access the company bank account to a new employee. The T&C's of the banks online banking state the details should not be given or shared with a third party.

The employment judge at my hearing does not accept this argument and says I was obliged to hand over my login details and this makes my dismissal fair.

Can some please help with this. The Clydesdale Bank is the companies bank.

LadyMissA

If they are YOUR log in details what would have happened if someone logged in with your ID and did something wrong like stealing?

Sambucus_Nigra

An employee is not a third party; if the employee is authorised to have those details and someone else had authorised you to share them with that employee.

BrettMorganxD

AlfonsoM wrote: »

I was saked for not disclosing the details I used to access the company bank account to a new employee. The T&C's of the banks online banking state the details should not be given or shared with a third party.

The employment judge at my hearing does not accept this argument and says I was obliged to hand over my login details and this makes my dismissal fair.

Can some please help with this. The Clydesdale Bank is the companies bank.

Well, the new EMPLOYEE isn't a third party, he is an employee.

burnoutbabe

why did you give the new person your log in details?

At various workplaces, we have all had to share various bank cards as not enough people to ensure 2 seperate people each time. But the boss knew about it/did it too so wouldn't be a dismissal offence.

Or is it that you DID NOT give the other person your log in? which seems reasonable enough, password control and all that. And internal controls. Unless the big boss tells you to, you shouldn't do it.

Torry_Quine

BrettMorganxD wrote: »

Well, the new EMPLOYEE isn't a third party, he is an employee.

That's what I thought, third party would be someone outside the bank

LadyMissA

burnoutbabe wrote: »

why did you give the new person your log in details?

At various workplaces, we have all had to share various bank cards as not enough people to ensure 2 seperate people each time. But the boss knew about it/did it too so wouldn't be a dismissal offence.

Or is it that you DID NOT give the other person your log in? which seems reasonable enough, password control and all that. And internal controls. Unless the big boss tells you to, you shouldn't do it.

they are saying they didnt give them hence the dismisal. I am for not giving them untill told to - if it was that important to have a password there has to be control or all sorts can happen

RadoJo

So was this a business bank account? If so, surely they would assume that the account would possibly be used by more than one person, and either way I would have thought that you would be agreeing to the Ts and Cs on behalf of 'the company' therefore an appropriate employee of that company would be within their rights to expect you to pass them on to someone who needed them in the course of their duties. Did they warn you that failure to share the details would result in dismissal?

KiKi

I can't believe there isn't more to this. Are you seriously telling me you said to the new employee "I won't give you the access details" and your boss said "you're sacked"?

Are you seriously saying that there was no discussion in between where your boss didn't say "I authorise you to give the account details to that person", or that you didn't go through some sort of discussion with finance? Or a disciplinary?

I can't believe that the sequence of events is:
a) refusal to hand over details
b) sacking
c) ET

...with absolutely nothing in between to clarify or justify this (one to one with manager, conversation with finance, clarity on ownership of bank details, senior manager / director intervention, investigation, disciplinary, appeal). The fact that an ET agrees with the company says something about what must have happened in between, surely.

It sounds to me like you were told to share the details and refused - which is what made the dismissal fair. Even trying to work towards a solution would have been better than refusal.

KiKi

LadyMissA

RadoJo wrote: »

So was this a business bank account? If so, surely they would assume that the account would possibly be used by more than one person, and either way I would have thought that you would be agreeing to the Ts and Cs on behalf of 'the company' therefore an appropriate employee of that company would be within their rights to expect you to pass them on to someone who needed them in the course of their duties. Did they warn you that failure to share the details would result in dismissal?

For security surely the OP's company have different log ons for every person with access to the bank? IF not you are putting yourself open to fraud.

skintandscared_2

This all sounds a bit odd. What actually went WRONG that caused someone to ask why you hadn't shared this information? There has to be something more. A person doesn't get sacked just for not voluntarily sharing a login/password.