DLA - the purpose

missk_ensington

Morglin wrote:

Well, DLA Unit first of all write to either the GP and/r consultant - who would have logged the difficulties that their patient has.

This is all very true, however there are many illnesses that are, for want of a better word, easy to fake. I have a chronic heart disorder I get DLA and although my claim is genuine, I could just as easily have faked it. All I would have had to do is make regular trips to the doctor/consultant complaining of symptoms and when they put the heart monitors on, I could easily have run up and down the stairs half a dozen times then when it goes to 200 bmp say I was just sat watching Simpsons. (I get palpitations, dizziness, and blackouts and they have no idea why after 6 years)

Many doctors can't find a reason why or how something is happening, and I'm guessing for many people that is because there is nothing wrong they're making it up. How hard can it be to "pretend" to go dizzy in public, pretend to collapse, get sent home from work a few times.......

It might sound dramatic for a bit of DLA, but for me that DLA is worth over £100 a week taking into account the premium on my Working Tax Credits, and could be worth even more to some other people.

Maybe I'm just cynical

Anthillmob

what a crock.

i had to fight tooth and nauil for what i should be allowed from dla after they refused to reconsider and up my 'allowance'

how can anyone fake an illness to get dla is beyond me. yeah people like him recently in the paper got it legit and then decided not to inform them that he had got better. but the 99% majority of us are fully deserving of dla and therwe is no way in the world that running up and down some staits would entitle you to dla based on your heart rate.

i presume youve had scans and whatever, they would base it on that. some !!!!!! running up and down the stairs a few times wouldnt wash, or their results wouldnt wash, with the dla peeps.

jos_4

I get DLA for my son and it pays for all the extras that his illness incurs, e.g. three extra loads of washing a day, special foods etc. I would like to meet those people who 'make it up' because it's not that simple, it took us a long time to get the rate we are on now and even the consultant and specialists nurse couldn't understand why.

missk_ensington

Anthillmob wrote:

what a crock.

i had to fight tooth and nauil for what i should be allowed from dla after they refused to reconsider and up my 'allowance'

how can anyone fake an illness to get dla is beyond me. yeah people like him recently in the paper got it legit and then decided not to inform them that he had got better. but the 99% majority of us are fully deserving of dla and therwe is no way in the world that running up and down some staits would entitle you to dla based on your heart rate.

i presume youve had scans and whatever, they would base it on that. some !!!!!! running up and down the stairs a few times wouldnt wash, or their results wouldnt wash, with the dla peeps.

Yes I had scans, they didn't show anything abnormal! My DLA is based purely on my visiting the doctor every few months saying I'm passing out and getting palpitations. The consultant doesn't have a clue whats up, but couldn't possibly infer that I'm faking symptoms just because he can't diagnose anything. Anybody could do it, in fact if they ever manage to cure my heart problem which is genuine, I will still say symptoms are there or I'll lose around £500 a month - thats my mortgage plus some more.

And the running up and down the stairs worked for me :rotfl: It made the heart monitor show sudden rise in heart rate.

Please dont be so naieve, I only know one person in receipt of DLA that is 100% deserving and thats my uncle who broke his neck and cannot move one single part of his body.

-A friend claims cos her daughter is a little swine. "Behavioural problems" gets a motability car because she's a danger to herself walking to school, has to go to special school, etc etc etc. Mum lives life of riley, no kid allday, no job and loads of money! And its probably a direct effect of all the E's she took when she was pregnant anyway!!

-Next door neighbour - always has a walking stick when I see him go out, but in the garden (which only I can see) he's digging a pond and doing acrobatics with the kids!

-My brother, aint got a clue why he gets it but I know he does cos I saw a letter once.

-A family friend, cant walk more than 20 yards but has fitted a new kitchen and bathroom.

Plus at least 10 people in the local pub who openly admit to being in recipt of DLA/benefits and harp on about it on a Wednesday night about how they are kin agonty, can;t walk etc etc, by Friday and 5 G+Ts later they're having no trouble Can-Canning round the dance floor!!

I'd say less that 50% of awards are 100% deserving, and haven't exaggerated or anything

sonee2405

i have had spinal surgery twice spent a year in a plaster cast, learnt how to walk slowly all over again, have a weak left side because of the neurological surgery in my spinal cord, have metal plates fitted to support my spine but i was turned down and had to appeal.Aaccording to them i was fully rceovered now, but they seem to forget that my spine was only corected slightly to stop paralysis i still have a a deformity which is visible, because of the slight hunchback that i have my shoulder blades rubs into my back and the scoliosis has effected my body shape i take painkillers like sweeties.I had to go to an appeal where a very stuck up gp advised me to use a walking stick.they don't know how it feels to be so ill sometimes that your mum has to bathe you at the age of 21.recently i am in worse pain as i tried to sort my life out and found a job in a call centre-the seating position and tiredness caused me so much but i still tried-until work gave me a medical and decided i am unfit to work.The dla people do not believe anybody who is honest-No dla money can ever replace good health.If i was healthy i wouldn't gve 2 hoots about dla money.

Morglin

"A friend claims cos her daughter is a little swine. "Behavioural problems" gets a motability car because she's a danger to herself walking to school, has to go to special school, etc etc etc. Mum lives life of riley, no kid allday, no job and loads of money! And its probably a direct effect of all the E's she took when she was pregnant anyway!!"


In order for this child to attend a special school, she would have been statemented, assessed and through a lengthy process - I hardly feel that this is just a case of a child being badly behaved.:rolleyes:

She could have any number of things wrong with her, and if she has the need, then her mother is entitled to DLA. Whether she took "E's" or not is neither here nor there.

If you really think getting DLA makes having a child with a disability all worthwhile, than I suggest that either you are not a parent, have no knowledge or experience of disability or that (and I'm inclined to think this), that your entire post is a wind up.;)

Heart disease is never diagnosed by running up and down stairs and counting your palpitations lol :rotfl: - my OH has heart disease and there are many many machines and tests for diagnostic purposes.

As for your other examples, these all have the recurring anecdotal urban myth ring to them.

I know the back up that is needed for DLA - I do these forms every week, and at the very least (if your post is true), you would have seen an EMP.

By the way, how do you get on if the consulting room has no stairs near it?

Do leave off.

Lin :rotfl:

oldMcDonald

Morglin wrote:

"A friend claims cos her daughter is a little swine. "Behavioural problems" gets a motability car because she's a danger to herself walking to school, has to go to special school, etc etc etc. Mum lives life of riley, no kid allday, no job and loads of money! And its probably a direct effect of all the E's she took when she was pregnant anyway!!"


In order for this child to attend a special school, she would have been statemented, assessed and through a lengthy process - I hardly feel that this is just a case of a child being badly behaved.:rolleyes:

She could have any number of things wrong with her, and if she has the need, then her mother is entitled to DLA. Whether she took "E's" or not is neither here nor there.

I have a friend who has a child with Aspergers syndrome and ADHD. If you knew all that boy and his mum had to cope with just to get from one side of a supermarket car park to another and then do a shop on top of that.....

It certainly isn't a bloody 'life of riley' for either of them:mad:

Morglin wrote:

If you really think getting DLA makes having a child with a disability all worthwhile, than I suggest that either you are not a parent, have no knowledge or experience of disability or that (and I'm inclined to think this), that your entire post is a wind up.;)

I hope that the post is a wind up as if it isn't then I hope this person never has to deal with anyone disabled (particularly a child of their own). What a caring attitude towards others!

missk_ensington

The heart monitors are kept on for 4-5 days whilst I am at home. My hone has stairs.

I didn't need to run up and down the stairs because my heart genuinely races for no apparent reason, but I was worried that no symptoms would show up during the short time span I had the heart monitor, so I added a few fake ones just for good measure.

I dont have heart disease I have a condition where my heart rate increases for no reason at all, and sometimes causes black outs. This much is true, but there is NO MEDICAL EVIDENCE to prove so. At least nothing I couldn't have made up, and no one apart from me will ever know how much of it is true and how much of it is bollox.

It's not hard to fake fainting! If you do it on a busy shopping day its only a matter of time before someone phones an ambulance. Do it a couple of times a year and then you can legitimately write on your DLA form that you've been taken into hospital by ambulance 4 times in a year..... You can easily fake a racing heart, you are given the monitor in the privacy of your own home with a diary that goes something like....

Tue 23rd 22.46 Symptom- Palpitations, racing heart. Activity: Watching TV....

Not hard to manufacture! You could be having rampant sex and tell them you were sleeping! They aren't allowed to say you're a liar! There are many conditions to do with the heart/brain etc that causes blackouts and doctors dont know why they happen a friend at school used to faint all the time and no one knew why.

Its survival of the fittest as far as I'm concerned. I would never blatently lie about something, but I think we all add a bit of VAT if its the difference between getting £500 a month and not getting £500 a month

And I do have a child, I have a 3 y/o son.

Astaroth

filigree wrote:

I hadn't realised you were referring to the RNID site. Their advice might be helpful to those with hearing impairments but it does not necessarily apply to other forms of disability.
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If you want to get agitated about how "unfair" this stinking system is, then get agitated about something important.

Nor did I as I was referring to the RNIB site but brain and fingers aren't always too well co-ordinated (plus being dyslexic doesn't help either)

I am not agitated about the DLA system - I didnt understand the "theory" behind it which is why I posed a question (and it was a question rather than an opinion).

Get me onto certain other benefits and I will get agitated but I didnt know enough about DLA to form an informed opinion.

heather38

lauren_1 wrote:

For some people it's just a free car or £170.00 a month, just tell the doctor you got sore knees after falling during sports they will put it down as condrimiton patella??? sothing similar any way and hey presto 6 weeks later you have a shiny new car
forgot to mention i am willing to kick anyones kneecaps off when they pull that one, its one of the most commonly used excuses

i was dignosed with this when i was 15 i used to take pain killers most days(before i was pregnant/bf now i don't take anything), i don't claim anything for this and worked full time before my baby was born and i have a shiny car that i paid for all by myself. please don't put everybody in the same box.