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MSE News: Solar subsidies to be slashed under government plans

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  • france-nuclear-plants-2.jpg

    .....or Bradwell - that is pretty near to London and the fallout would go all over Holland.

    Oh damn, I had forgotten that EDF's fall out from the Channel coast would go all over London :D


    Isn't the prevailing wind from the west though?

    What I find amusing is that Germany and Italy are unwinding from Nuclear (for now) yet France, whose wind shadow they are in, is just over the border and will no doubt continue to sell to them.:rotfl:
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • We could make massive savings by bulldozing all the silly little rural properties dotted about all over the place, complete with their woefully inadequate thermal properties, especially those occupied by selfish commuters or kept by even more selfish second home owners.

    Everyone should be forced to live "efficiently" like this:

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR1JGRC33coewut054-xn2Vd2mK1VH6BwVP-ojIOnOEzV0LQLGZ


    Why not go a step further and use them all as pillars to support a massive tented PV array over the whole city.

    It would also keep them nice and warm:eek:
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • zeupater wrote: »
    Hi

    Note posts #230 & #243 when relating to this ....

    :rotfl: .... SCD = Strictly Come Dancing ... TV = TeleVision .... SWMBO = SheWhoMustBeObeyed ... RdSAP is the basis for the EPC (EnergyPerformanceCertificate) and importantly, the planned changes to the prerequisits for FiTs requiring an EPC/RdSAP of band C or better from April next year .....

    HTH
    Z


    I heard a rumour that Council Tax coul dalso have an energy factor built in, low "EPC" score higher CT.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • kes74
    kes74 Posts: 14 Forumite
    zeupater wrote: »
    Okay, let's push the boat a little further and look at the possibility of net-metering to find the other end of the scale and say the the 3300kWh/year which the array is capable of producing is the same as the average UK electricity usage for dual-fuel customers, just because it is :D ... The saving becomes £396 (3300*0.12) and the associated investment on the same basis becomes £9900(396/0.04) .... we'll call this purchase price-point 2.
    zeupater wrote: »
    Price point2 is currently achieveable, all that would be needed would be a change in legislation to allow net-metering
    rogerblack wrote: »
    Net metering would have another potentially useful impact.
    Because you're paid the same amount as the electricity you use, there is no incentive to try to - for example - hook the mains up to the array in some manner.

    So all the requirements for certification to avoid this go away, and in principle the only remaining one is safety, and consumer protection.
    (and localised grid over-feeding, there would need to be some mechanism where a supplier could say no, in limited areas where it was causing a problem)

    It would be lovely if one could simply purchase a set of panels, an inverter which plugs in through a standard plug, and erect these on a suitable (also supplied) frame in your garden.

    Why do things need to be as complicated as they are now when it could be simple, easy, reasonably-priced and self-funding like that?

    If you can just shrink the size of a 4kWp system and provide it with a suitable frame to self-install on my well-positioned garage then I'll go get my cheque book and ladder now! :beer:
  • kes74 wrote: »
    Why do things need to be as complicated as they are now when it could be simple, easy, reasonably-priced and self-funding like that?
    /QUOTE]


    Government got involved??

    Perhaps if it had been left to free market we would be picking them up at B & Q, after getting the appropriate license form your local area control "manweb" for instance.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • 2010 - 2011 fiscal year programmes which received big real-term increases:
    • Nuclear Decommissioning Authority, DECC, +81% to £7bn
    • Academies, DFE, +58.8% to £2.08bn
    • Defence equipment spending, MoD, +31.7% to £22.77bn
    • Ceremonial spending, DCMS, +25% to £25m
    • Debt relief, DFID, +24% to £66m
    • Incapacity benefit, DWP, +13% to £7.8bn
    • Criminal legal aid, +8% to £1.2bn
    • Housing benefit, +5% to £21.6bn




    Surprise surprise!

    Source: Grauniad.
  • orrery
    orrery Posts: 833 Forumite
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    rogerblack wrote: »
    My preferred size would be field-scale - 100-250kW perhaps, near communities.
    This has much smaller infrastructure costs than gigawatt plant.
    And is much more efficient per unit subsidy than on roofs.

    The downside of this is that there is competition for land usage - with recent stories that growing crops for bio-fuel reduces the land for growing food. Roof space is otherwise wasted and small distributed systems deliver the power into the community near to where it will be used.
    4kWp, Panels: 16 Hyundai HIS250MG, Inverter: SMA Sunny Boy 4000TLLocation: Bedford, Roof: South East facing, 20 degree pitch20kWh Pylontech US5000 batteries, Lux AC inverter,Skoda Enyaq iV80, TADO Central Heating control
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,061 Forumite
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    edited 1 December 2011 at 5:13PM
    At last some sense from this Government!

    http://www.businessgreen.com/bg/news/2128689/decc-slams-bonkers-proposals-delay-solar-incentive-cuts

    Climate change minister Greg Barker has again warned it would be "catastrophic" to delay deep cuts to feed-in tariffs until April 2012, admitting his department massively underestimated the costs the scheme will add to energy bills.

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    There was absolutely no way the scheme would have coped with that level of demand. My only regret is that we didn't do it earlier.
  • Kernel_Sanders
    Kernel_Sanders Posts: 3,617 Forumite
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    edited 4 December 2011 at 1:30PM
    A local company I approached a few weeks ago with a view to installing solar in time for the 42p+ payments to extend beyond 1st April informed me that they were fully booked up. They have just told me they now have a cancellation, and will be able to beat the deadline because they do their own accreditation and produce the MCS certificate in-house. Is this feasible?
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