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  • jamesd
    jamesd Posts: 26,103 Forumite
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    rogerblack wrote: »
    I'm looking at going from probably D or E to B+. This involves a _MASSIVE_ amount of work.
    Less painful for me than you it seems. Free loft insulation increase done because it's an unfinished area. No need for plasterboard to be touched for any wall insulation and the place already needs redecorating throughout. Kitchen and bathroom not touched for at least 25 years and being replaced anyway. Don't know what you're starting with, I started with an estate sale that had lots of work needed anyway.
    zeupater wrote: »
    And all that for a piece of paper with some tick boxes which has been designed for assessment on a 'dumbed down' basis so that a scheme could be created for the relatively untrained to run .....
    It's of a little more value than that. Consider a nocturnal night worker who keeps a place at 27 degrees year round. Efficient heating, insulation and lighting have more value in that situation. Your experience wasn't a good one, though - I agree with you about that experience.
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,061 Forumite
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    zeupater wrote: »

    Aren't governments really apt at creating completely useless red tape from nowhere ... ;)



    HTH
    Z

    Your story makes me laugh.

    I posted this some while ago:

    We get lots of self proclaimed 'energy experts' on MSE who having done a 2 day course feel qualified to give advice - often poor advice.


    Domestic Energy Assessor
    2 days course • Level 3 diploma
    Limited time
    special offer £995 + VAT

    In my case it was merely a polite enquiry to see if the OP was in that category - or if not, what qualifications were required to be an 'energy expert'.

    Incidentally my daughter did the 5 day course(she didn't pay) after graduating and before moving on to another degree course. Immediately she finished the course she became an instructor at the same establishment.

    Clever girl as she might be, she didn't have, and still doesn't, any idea of the most rudimentary electrical theory, or insulation etc. However the reports she wrote were highly impressive - but meaningless, all the buzzwords and jargon were on the template!!
    You might have had an 'expert' trained by my daughter!
  • John_Pierpoint
    John_Pierpoint Posts: 8,401 Forumite
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    edited 12 November 2011 at 4:51AM
    Back at posting #225, I have made amendments, including more examples from North Blyth. The fourth example has an energy cost efficiency rating of "C77".
    The box ticking EPC explains how this was achieved.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/48425099#Comment_48425099
  • tiz wrote: »
    We signed a contract and paid a £1800 deposit on 9th October, and have an estimated install date of 27-29th Nov, subject to the panel delivery. It's already been pushed back because of availability issues.

    As I understand it at the moment if our install is pushed back or the certificate not filed in time (The Energy Saving Trust suggest allowing 10 working days) we're stuck with the new tariff even though we calculated our figures and signed the contract under the old terms. Other than crossing our fingers, the only option is to back out and lose the deposit.

    The MCS certificate is emailed to the installer fairly rapidly after they register the installation online. Under MCS rules, they do have ten working days to do this, but good installers will do it within a day to turn it round. This means that the last date to have a solid chance of getting it installed and the certificate received at the extreme of the MCS deadline, but in time to get it to your supplier is the 24th November. However, you should be OK up until the end of the month if the installer is halfway competent.

    So, check with the installer and ask when they would provide the certificate, if the installation goes ahead as planned and then put it in writing to them NOW that time is of the essence and that unless the installation is carried out as promised, you will be requesting a full refund.

    REAL - the customer assurance scheme to which all MCS companies have to belong - instructed members on the 1 November that to remain compliant with their code of conduct they must place all customer deposits in client accounts and that if the customer has signed a contract and agreed to an installation date which the installer is unable to meet and that this affects the tariff received, then the installer should offer a full refund.

    That won't stop the cowboys out for a quick buck, but not a lot will.

    If the worst comes to the worst, work out whether losing the deposit makes sense given the income under the new scheme - it won't be as good as currently, but you should still get your money back and a bit on top.
  • Barter
    Barter Posts: 593 Forumite
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    Npower will accept scanned & emailed forms; I suggest you check whether your FIT provider does too. This would mean you could, in theory, send them on Sunday 11th December, although I wouldn't want to recommend that! Our installation isn't until Monday 5th December, & we've been told all should be OK. Fingers & toes being crossed; breathe held; wood touched...
  • Barter wrote: »
    Npower will accept scanned & emailed forms; I suggest you check whether your FIT provider does too. This would mean you could, in theory, send them on Sunday 11th December, although I wouldn't want to recommend that! Our installation isn't until Monday 5th December, & we've been told all should be OK. Fingers & toes being crossed; breathe held; wood touched...

    Check when the office is open! I think EON are open on Saturdays, but I suspect that many suppliers will staff up on the 11th as well to ensure that they don't get too many complaints about the wrong date.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    To the thread not aimed at any poster -

    GOOD.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • Brian99_2
    Brian99_2 Posts: 155 Forumite
    edited 16 November 2011 at 2:32PM
    Zeupater... ABSOLUTELY what I imagine would happen, in my house, with my genuine improvements, that won't have a tick boxes on their computerised system.

    Eiderdowns on north-facing walls (cos theres no cavity to fill).... homemade third layer of glazing, using acrylic sheets from B&Q... etc etc.

    Have often wondered what an Energy Assessor would say.

    Have you the link for the DIY assessment ?? Would be useful.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    We have a conservatory with a fitted electric heater which we don't use much in the Winter (if it is cold) and an electric fire in the lounge ,loosed into a space in the chimney cavity, used for the fire effect mirror only as the CH is more than man enough.(House has full chimney, no fire brick and wall was plasterer board before).

    I believe both of these "additional" heating systems could bring the rating down totally outweighing the raft of energy saving measures elsewhere. Bonkers - keeps the EUSSR bureaucrats happy though.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • phsci
    phsci Posts: 70 Forumite
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    orrery wrote: »
    Interesting - is there a self assessment utility somewhere?
    Is this the sort of thing you are after? Have a look at the Energy Savings Trust site, "In your home", "Home Energy Check".
    (sorry, not yet allowed to post hyperlinks)
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