Solar FIT slashed

Cardew

energysavingexp wrote: »

every time i click on it or copy and past it just takes me to the home page?

Weird, after reading your post(11:09) I clicked link and it worked. Now I too get home page!

I wonder if there are too many trying to access the link it diverts to the home page?

energysavingexp

espresso wrote: »

Are you sure that it not cached on your machine?



Some info here

Thanks Espresso:beer:

espresso

The Google cache of the page is here but the document appears to have been removed from their server - not worked for me all morning.

Cardew

The info posted in post #11 covers the important points. Most of the EST document is giving the justification for the reduction. States it will apply to Rent a Roof companies. The present Government have given a pledge that they will honour FIT rates for existing customers. No change in export rates. Other FIT rates - including Wind will be reviewed and details published later. Didn't mention if rates for New Builds would be at 21p or be lower than retro-fit. All iirc.

HalloweenJack

and so the complaining from rent a roof companies begins:

Howard Johns, MD of Southern Solar, who spotted the document, tweeted: "It seems that EST know exactly what the outcome of the Fit review already – so much for consultation." Toby Ferenczi, chief technology officer at solar company Engensa, wrote: "This isn't acceptable and will result in massive job losses – don't be fooled."

and

Johns told the Guardian that the cuts would be a "disaster". "If they go ahead with this, the tariff is way too low, and all the social housing and free solar schemes – which make the feed-in tariffs exciting in terms of fuel poverty – will be destroyed." He added that this was the third government review into solar subsidies this year, saying "we've invested business in PV [solar photovoltaic panels] and had it sliced up three times in a year. They [the government] have no credibility on this any more."

taken from:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/oct/28/solar-subsidies-cut-half


complaints because the `printing free money` scheme will be rightll stopped for these rent a roof companies

Cardew

Personally I think that the Rent a Roof companies should not be entitled to even claim the 21p/kWh. They have had a license to print money for too long - collecting the subsidies we all pay them directly - and intended for individual properties.

Look how many firms have sprung up to feed on these subsidies.

If they install, say, 2000 systems of 4kWp then they should get the rates applicable for 8,000kWh(8MW)

Cardew

From another thread - someone copied the EST document:

*** DISCLAIMER *** Note it clearly states it is a draft and subject to change so please don't hold me responsible for any decisions you make based on the contents!

Energy Saving Trust FIT review fact sheet
Fact Sheet on the proposed changes to Solar PV Feed-in-Tariff rates
Last updated 26 October 2011

Introduction
The UK Government is proposing to reduce Feed-in Tariffs (FITs) for new solar photovoltaic (PV) installations as part of their comprehensive review consultation. See www.decc.gov.uk/fits
If you install solar PV and your FITs application is received by your FIT supplier (also known as FIT Licensee) on or after 8 December 2011, you could be affected by the proposals. Please note that these proposals are currently under consultation and are therefore not final.
However, we recommend customers should use the figures in the consultation if they are planning to install after 8 December 2011.
Only PV systems are covered by the UK Government's current FITs consultation. Other FIT-eligible technologies will be considered as part of the second phase of the comprehensive review due to be published shortly.

Summary of proposals
The UK Government proposals which affect householders most are:
A reduced rate of 21p/kWh for solar PV installations <4kW - tariffs will be introduced from 1 April 2012 and will affect all installations with an eligibility date on or after 8 December 2011. See definition of eligibility date below. This tariff rate is designed to provide householders with a rate of return of around 4%. New domestic energy efficiency requirements - from 1 April 2012, domestic installations must be accompanied by an Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) with a level C or above/which has completed all „Green Deal‟ measures. Where a domestic property does not meet these energy efficiency requirements, the Solar PV installation may receive a lower tariff.
The table below compares typical income and savings made for an average sized solar PV system in the UK along with simple payback period (cost divided by combined income and savings)
FIT Rates
Total annual earnings and savings with a 2.9kW system Simple payback (years)
Current 43.3p/kWh £ 1,190 10
Proposed 21p/kWh £ 640 18

Energy Saving Trust FIT review fact sheet
2.9kWp system, install cost of £11,500 Total earnings and savings include income from the generation tariff, export tariff on 50% of total generation and up to 25% of generation used on site. Simple payback will depend on capital cost so the simple payback periods may vary depending on quotes received. Cost of solar PV has come down significantly over the years so we would expect the simple payback period to come down gradually. Annual generation has been calculated as 853kWh/kWp using the Energy Saving Trust Solar Energy Calculator (see below) using the postcode SW1A 0AA (Westminster Palace)
Household advice and tools (new solar calculator)
The Energy Saving Trust has developed a Solar Energy Calculator which includes the newly proposed rates. This calculator will allow householders to see how much they could generate and earn both before and after the proposed changes.
See: www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/solarenergycalculator
Information on solar PV is also contained here:
http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/...tricity-panels
Householders can also see what other renewables technologies may be suitable by using the Home Energy Generation tool.
See: www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/renewableselector/start
For free independent and impartial advice, householders can also speak to one of our advisers over the phone. Simply call 0800 512 012
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Questions
1. How will the proposals affect me?
The proposals could affect anyone who is considering installing solar PV or has installed solar PV but has not yet applied for FITs. The table below summarises how the proposed new tariffs would apply:-
Eligibility date Tariff Band/Rate
Before 8 December 2011 Higher tariff for full 25 years of support
8 December 2011 – 31 March 2012 inclusive Higher tariff until 31 March 2012 Lower tariff from 1 April 2012 for the remainder of the 25 years support
1 April 2012 onwards Lower tariff for full 25 years of support
Example
Mr Smith has PV installed on his house on 1 December 2011. His application for FITs is received by his electricity supplier on 15 December 2011. This means that Mr Smith would be affected by the UK Government‟s proposals. He would be eligible for the current tariffs from 15 December 2011 – the eligibility date - until 31 March 2012. From 1 April 2012 he would receive the lower tariff for the remainder of the 25 years FIT support.
The Solar Energy Calculator can provide a bespoke report for householders. See link above.

Energy Saving Trust FIT review fact sheet
2. What is the definition of eligibility date?
In order to be entitled to receive the higher FIT rates, your installation must have an eligibility date before 8 December 2011. To ensure an eligibility date that is before 8 December 2011 you must: Commission (system installed and signed off) your installation before 8 December 2011 – ensuring it meets all eligibility requirements including (but not exclusively) MCS accredited installer, MCS accredited product, approved generation meter.
And Submit an application for the FIT which
o Is complete
o Is received by your chosen FIT Licensee before 8 December 2011
o Includes a complete and valid MCS certificate
o Includes a generation meter reading taken within the last 5 working days of the date the application is received by the FIT Licensee You can find a list of FIT Licensees here: http://www.ofgem.gov.uk/SUSTAINABILI...es/rfitls.aspx
We recommend you contact your chosen FIT Licensee as soon as possible to confirm the requirements above i.e. exactly what information they require from you and when they need to receive it by.
3. Why is the UK Government proposing to reduce FITs for solar PV?
This year, the UK Government has been reviewing the FITs scheme in the comprehensive review process. FITs are a UK Government subsidy for small-scale low-carbon electricity generation. The costs of FITs are funded through energy bills.
The first phase of the UK Governments‟ Comprehensive review has found that, since the scheme started, the global costs of PV panels have fallen significantly. This, combined with other factors, has meant that the returns available from PV are now far higher than originally intended. Originally the plan was to provide generators with a rate of return of around 5-8%. Actual returns were much higher (around 10%). UK Government is now proposing a rate of return of 4%.
4. I was told the tariffs were guaranteed up until 31 March 2012. Why the change?
The UK Government said previously that “We‟ve made clear that tariffs will remain unchanged until April 2012 unless the review indicates the need for greater urgency”. It was a combination of the rapid rise in solar PV installations, rapid decrease in solar PV costs and the need to provide value for money which lead to this fast track review. UK Government also said that “The FITs scheme is paid for by energy consumers through their bills and has a fixed budget. The scheme‟s proving popular with households and we‟re continually monitoring the take up of the scheme to make sure that we stick to budget.”
Further details on the “why” is contained above.
Energy Saving Trust FIT review fact sheet
5. Why is the UK Government introducing different tariffs and why such a big difference?
According to the UK Government:
Solar PV is the most dominant and most costly technology to fund through the FIT scheme.
Emerging evidence shows that the capital costs of PV have fallen by around 30% since the introduction of the FITs scheme.
The original planned degression (the rate at which tariffs come down in line with the rate at which capital costs of systems fall) after the second year was less than 9% - much less than cost reductions seen which were closer to 30%
The returns available now are more than double what was intended leading to generators being overcompensated.
Similar schemes operating in the EU have already announced reductions in tariffs for solar PV in the last year. For example, Germany, France, Spain, Italy and Belgium.
A “do nothing now” option would minimise short-term industry disruption, but with no flexibility to increase the FITs spending envelope this would have severe budgetary risks and serious value for money concerns.
It could also make it difficult to deliver the Spending Review commitments of improving the efficiency of the scheme by 10% (savings of £40m) in 2014/15 if they were left unchanged.
6. Do these tariffs mean that small scale schemes such as domestic installations will still be financially viable if they are under 4kW?
According to the UK Government:
The FITs scheme was designed to deliver a rate of return (ROR) of 5-8% for well located installations.
The new tariff of 21p is intended to deliver a 4% ROR for well located installations.
A 4% (real, tax free) return for domestic PV is more appropriate bearing in mind how the investment market has changed since the FITs scheme was introduced.
7. Will the UK Government be increasing the export tariff to make it more worth my while and to compensate for the reduction in the FIT?
The UK Government does not plan to change the export tariff from its current level during this review.
However, the FITs scheme will be subject to periodic reviews which will consider all aspects of the FITs scheme, including tariffs levels, degression rates and methods and make changes if necessary. The second stage of the Comprehensive review, which will be published shortly, will provide more detail on these aspects.
Energy Saving Trust FIT review fact sheet
8. When will tariff changes become effective?
Subject to Parliamentary scrutiny as required by the Energy Act 2008, the revised tariffs will take effect from 1st April 2012.
But will affect all those with an eligibility date on or after 8 December 2011.
9. What are the UK Government proposing on energy efficiency?
The UK Government wants to ensure that PV is considered as part of a whole house approach which prioritises energy efficiency.
For eligibility dates falling on or after 1 April 2012, the UK Government propose that eligibility for the higher rate of 21p/kWh would be conditional on the dwelling meeting a specified minimum energy efficiency requirement.
10. What EPC rating is the UK Government proposing and how will owner occupiers bring their houses up to that level?
The UK Government are proposing that the owner or occupier should bring the property up to an EPC rating of level C or above or undertake all the measures that are identified on the EPC as potentially financeable under the Green Deal (at no up-front cost)

EXISTING CUSTOMERS
11. I am an existing customer, how will the proposed changes affect me?
The higher tariff will continue be paid to all existing participants.
The Coalition UK Government has made a commitment not to make retrospective changes to tariffs. This would not be fair to those who had paid higher capital costs for solar PV during the early stages of the scheme and had made their investment decisions based on the support available.

CUSTOMERS CONSIDERING INSTALLING
12. I didn’t know this change in tariffs was coming – the reference date of 8 December seems very soon. Why the rush?
In view of continuing high levels of uptake at the current tariffs it makes sense to separate the comprehensive review into two phases with this particular phase focussing on an accelerated review of the tariffs for small-scale PV.
In the overall context, the UK Government's assessment is that a 6 week period will allow many prospective generators who have made a financial commitment to complete their installations.

Energy Saving Trust FIT review fact sheet
13. Since the announcement of the 8 December date, there has been a higher demand for solar panel installation. Is there capacity in industry to deliver this?
It is inevitable that there will be a rush of new installations triggered by this consultation
We believe that most of the current supply chain in most sectors has capacity to deliver, both in terms of manufacturing and installation. However, certain localities may well be affected more than others and it is likely that, after joining a waiting list, some will not get their installations completed in time.
14. I am considering having solar panels installed through my suppliers Rent-a-roof scheme. Will it now be worth it?
Those on an existing Rent-a-roof scheme will not be affected by the change in tariffs.
The proposed changes will alter the business models of Rent a Roof companies, who may chose to alter or withdraw their offer.
Rent a Roof schemes will be treated in the same way - if the eligibility date falls on or after 8 December, the generator (who is normally the rent a roof company, not the homeowner) will receive the lower tariff because of the lower capital costs of solar panels since the scheme was first introduced and because of the cost to the scheme overall.
15. I’ve signed up to a Rent-a-roof scheme with the generator receiving a reduced FIT and some of the benefit coming to me. Will the benefits for me be reduced or the disadvantages [lower income] to the generator be passed onto me?
A range of companies will install free solar panels at no cost to the householder who benefits through savings on their electricity bill. If the eligibility date falls on or after 8 December, the generator (the rent-a-roof company) will receive the lower tariff because of the lower capital costs of solar panels since the scheme was first introduced and because of the cost to the scheme overall.
Legislation was put in place that allowed other players in the market to create their own schemes and to offer solar panels that did not belong to an individual but to the property. These schemes fall outside the FITs policy and any agreement is with the individual householder and the company installing the panels.

CONSUMER PROTECTION
Energy Saving Trust FIT review fact sheet
16. There is a risk that installers will mis-sell/mislead to gain business without notifying consumers of the proposed changes?
Any installer offering solar PV with a declared net capacity of 50kW or less that can earn money from the Feed-In Tariff scheme must be certified by the Microgeneration Certification Scheme (MCS) and be a member of REAL (Renewable Energy Assurance Limited).
Members of the REAL Assurance Scheme have given a legal undertaking to comply with the REAL Assurance Consumer Code.
This includes advertising materials they produce being legal, decent, honest and truthful. False or misleading information cannot be given about their company, the product, services or facilities being offered, nor can they make any statement that is likely to mislead the consumer in any way.
17. Installers may try and sell other products and services during their initial visit other than the one I want
Face-to-face sales during any visit may only be conducted with the consumer‟s prior consent.
Where customers have given consent, such sales activities should be conducted in a fair, transparent, appropriate and professional manner.
18. There is a risk that installers may rush work ahead of the 8 December date, possibly employing non-expert labour and leading to poor quality installations.
Any installer offering solar PV with a declared net capacity of 50kW or less that can earn money from the Feed-In Tariff must be certified by the Microgeneration Certification Scheme (MCS) and be a member of REAL.
Members of the REAL Assurance Scheme have given a legal undertaking to comply with the REAL Assurance Consumer Code, and MCS certificated installers must meet the MCS standards for products used and installation.
This ensures that all work is carried out to robust standards, so consumers are protected from poor quality work and that the products supplied meet required standards.
Customers will be protected by warranties covering against installation failure and poor workmanship.
Complaints should be made to the installer in the first instance. If unresolved, the MCS Certification Body and/or REAL may also be approached.
Energy Saving Trust FIT review fact sheet
19. I have paid my installer a deposit, but they have gone bankrupt/ cease to trade before delivering the goods.
Installers offering systems that can earn FITs must be certified by MCS and be a member of REAL.
The Deposit and Advance Payment Insurance (DAPI) scheme was designed to give consumers peace of mind by protecting the money they pay up front to the company.
All REAL members (installers) are required to take part in the DAPI scheme unless they can demonstrate they have equivalent cover in place.
If the scheme member falls into receivership/administration/bankruptcy before the contract is completed, then the consumer will be able to recover his/her money.
20. Can I cancel my contract with installer?
Under the REAL Scheme, consumers are given seven working days to cancel the contract without penalty (the „cooling-off period‟) which reflects a reasonable standard of practice.
If works starts within the seven day period, consumers may be responsible for costs of goods and services already supplied provided they were given the requisite information before signing the contract.
Conditions and costs that apply if the customer wants to cancel after the cooling-off period must be clearly set out in the contract. If cancelling, consumers are advised to do the following:
o Contact the installer in writing or email, quoting the REAL code on cancellations as foundon the REAL website: www.realassurance.org.uk/scheme/consumer-code#tag6.2
o Give the installer a week to respond
o If you do not receive a response or are not satisfied with the response then refer to the REAL website point F on how to complain- www.realassurance.org.uk/consumers/how-to-complain
21. My installer was slow in providing me with an MCS certificate and now I have missed the deadline for the higher tariff rate.
The onus is in the consumer to proactively follow up the production of an MCS certificate by the installation company where this has not been received. Similarly, installers should provide a certificate in a timely manner. Consumers may use the complaint process as outlined on our web site: www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/Generate-your-own-energy/Finding-an-installer/Making-a-complaint

Energy Saving Trust FIT review fact sheet
22. I want to complain about the standard of service or about aspects of the contract, who should I go to?
In the first instance, consumers should speak to their installer and if this does not provide resolution, then the REAL Assurance scheme administrator.
The REAL conciliation service can be used if the complaint cannot be amicably sorted out between the two parties with the aim to reach a non-legal solution in a reasonable timescale.
Both consumer and installer have the right to ask for the matter to be referred to the independent arbitration service if the conciliator‟s advice is not acceptable.
Should all of these routes fail, the courts will still be available as with any other product or service.
23. What if there is product failure/poor workmanship and the installer has gone bankrupt? Will the UK Government pay me back?
No. Consumers benefit from the income they receive under FITs, and so like any other product, they should consider insuring the product outside of the warranty period.
Product complaints can also be referred to the manufacturer and, if need be, the relevant MCS Certification body for the product.

JohalaReewi

There seems to be a PDF here...

http://www.itcreation.co.uk/navitron/newfit.pdf

xpf

28 October 2011


PRESS STATEMENT
In response to speculation on our position on the government’s review of Feed-in Tariffs, an Energy Saving Trust spokesperson said:
“We’ve been working on a draft consumer guidance document in relation to the Fast Track Review of Feed in Tariffs for Solar PV to pre-empt the Government consultation which is expected next week. Preparing advice on a potential announcement was the responsible thing to do as the leading consumer advice body in this area. Unfortunately, due to a technical error this document was made available for search.
“This is a work in progress document which is no longer on our web site and cannot be relied upon as the Government consultation has yet to be announced. Then and only then will we know the precise contents. We cannot confirm anything within our fact sheet until then.”
Ends

http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/About-us/Press-releases/28-October-2011


Petition started by someone here
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/17374

whowants2brich

Does this mean that as a result of a decrease in FIT that we all pay for in our electricity bills... that our electricty bills per unit will drop?

I mean, if we were paying 40+p per kw generated, and now we'd need to only pay 20+p per kw, that's a saving that could be passed on to those who still have to pay for their electricity in the normal way... right?