How do i rehome our border collie?

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scrimpandsaver wrote: »

I am sorry but i have to agree with fairy, you cannot blame a child for a dog biting them, they should never be left alone, kids are naturally inquisitive and at certain ages under 5's mainly will push the limits, this is a part of natural development and every good parent will know this.

Maybe not, but you can educate a child about how not to provoke a dog to bite in the first place, just like i do with my Rottweiler. T'aint rocket science you know. Sensible balanced owners make sensible balanced dogs. I myself would never blame a child for a dog biting them, i would blame myself for leaving them unattended togather or allowing a dog i knew was unpredictable to get close enough to bite in the first place.

Now, could someone remind us all what the hell this thread was actually about?

loopydonna

scrimpandsaver wrote: »

I am sorry but i have to agree with fairy, you cannot blame a child for a dog biting them, they should never be left alone, kids are naturally inquisitive and at certain ages under 5's mainly will push the limits, this is a part of natural development and every good parent will know this.

There is no need to imply that Becles is a bad parent because you disagree with her views.

I have read her other posts and it sounds like she is an excellent parent, as she often offers constructive advice to other parents. As a parent myself, I have picked up some useful tips from her.

Everyone has different opinions and Martin says we should always be nice to other moneysavers.

conradmum

I've read the last couple of pages of this thread and something's bothering me. It seems that some of the dog lovers seem to think it's okay for a dog to bite a child as long as it's given the appropriate warning signs - baring teeth, growling etc. It seems that they think the onus is on the child to recognise these signs and the parent to teach the child these signs, rather than to teach the dog that it's completely unacceptable to harm a human being in any way. Is it impossible for dogs to walk away when they don't like what a child is doing to them?
I ask because I have cats and I would expect them to get up and walk off if a child was acting in a way they didn't like. Of course I teach my kids not to be cruel or torment animals at all, but at the same time if a cat I owned were to hiss at, scratch or bite a human they would be very severely dealt with. I wouldn't think the behaviour was acceptable just because they were acting in self defence.
I don't wish to cause offence, just trying to understand!

mummytofour

I had three children and I got a BC pup. I went to all the clases, I got help and still he just didnt work out. I tried and tried but it got to the point where the dog was knocking the toddler over if the toddler moved! The kids could not be kids without the dog doing something. I have ALWAYS had dogs but our BC just could not cope in our family. Alas we didnt have to re-home him, he was out in the fields one day with dh when he bolted throw a hedge and got killed by a post van that didnt stop, just drove off.

sleepymy

Dear Lord, how did I survive on a farm for 23yrs with all those ANIMALS :eek:

iwanttosave_2

Back to this thread again

My family have kept dogs ever since I have been on this Earth, I have also trained 3 dogs myself, I know what signs dogs are supposed to give ect.

Yet, I have been bitten more times than I would like, and once mauled for no apparent reason to the extreme where it was thought that I would need reconstructive surgury. On that matter, the dog never gave a single sign at all, this dog was actually what we thought was the most well behaved dog ever. She was amazing and was "my" dog, on this day I was sat down, leaned over and asked if she wanted a treat and she went for me.

I was 15 at the time and to get her off I had to pick her up and throw her against the wall. She gave no sign what so ever, in fact, if I recall correctly, she was wagging her tail before it happened.

To put the blame on a child is silly, the dog, as many on here have said, should be trained, my present dog at the moment is fab with the kids, and is placid to the point I often think she is dead, but I still dont take chances. If I thought for one second a dog might harm mine or any child, it would be gone.

loopydonna

conradmum wrote: »

I ask because I have cats and I would expect them to get up and walk off if a child was acting in a way they didn't like.

I have a cat. Sometimes my toddler pesters her and follows her round until she jumps the safety gate and hides upstairs, sits on top of the dresser or goes out through the cat flap. I don't suppose a dog has anywhere to walk off to.

conradmum

loopydonna wrote: »

I have a cat. Sometimes my toddler pesters her and follows her round until she jumps the safety gate and hides upstairs, sits on top of the dresser or goes out through the cat flap. I don't suppose a dog has anywhere to walk off to.

Would you then think it would be okay for the dog to snap at the toddler?

shirlgirl2004

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

And the same people think it's OK to have small children along with a Rottweiler and a Bull Terrier, (mentioned in a former post), both strong aggressive breeds proved to be unreliable with children.

Beats me.

You obviously know little about dogs. Both breeds are strong, yes but no-one is suggesting they pit the children in a tug of war against them. Agggressive? No. Any dog can be aggressive, it's down to the way it' bred, reared and handled.

milkydrink

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

You obviously know little about dogs. Both breeds are strong, yes but no-one is suggesting they pit the children in a tug of war against them. Agggressive? No. Any dog can be aggressive, it's down to the way it' bred, reared and handled.

Ah yes, but I could get a small/medium dog off a child/person quickly, I don't know if I could get a Rottweiler or a Bull Terrier off before the child was maimed or dead. Even a big man would have trouble controling one of these that was savaging someone.