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Help for my daughter ...where to start?
Cacran
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OH my God, we are in a mess, don't know what to do,
Long long story....... will try to compact it.
Daughter 22 met guy 19. Guy was bit flash with cash, money no object, parents had it all. so he said. Wiz kid in finance, great wage so he said. Parents(us) not conviced, daughter, taken in.
she never met any of his mates, parents or any family. Went on a couple of holidays abroad. Got a flat together, posh one, big rent. Furnished flat with the best. Met parents, lovely. Never met friends or other family though he saw all of them regularly without taking her.
Background.... Katy, savings in ISA made up of all savings from family from birth etc. About £4,000. Bought a house at 18 after college with a guy. sold house at 21.. end of relationship. Reasonable profit,money in bank. Bought a car £6,000. rest, not sure of amount but guessed she could have spent it on hols and furniture etc, and stuff. Worried, yes. she'd always worked but only £800 a month as Nursery Nurse. always managed finances without credit. Paid bills on time etc. Was quite proud of her. Him....well. parents were going to give him a huge lumpsum towards house when time came, they had a gite in France which would be his etc. We were sceptical, daughter believed it all!
this flat was about 10 miles from us and even further from her work. She changed the place of work that she loved, cut off all ties with everyone she knew, to make him happy. She hated new job wage £900 a year but less holidays. He moved job from being within walking distance from to home to 10 miles away in the city. better wage/prospects etc. More travel costs. going to get train. He had a car but in his terms was a bit old compared to her almost new one. Had to have his own even better one. Daddy was going to give him no interest loan but only in the near future as money tied up... getting the picture?????? Got himself a loan in intrim £5,000. He'd been so clever with money doing all the credit card 'tarting' but knew all about money, was no fool. She had a couple of cards that she had got on 0% but only used for couple of concert tickets now with zero balance.
they seemed to go out for too many meals, too many days out, too many designer stuff on his part, too much drinking on his part, she hardly drinks anything. usually driving so drinks coke. I lectured both of them about debt etc. tried to convince me they were alright. I was not happy!!!!!!
Flat, a show home. No mess, shoes off at door etc. She is messy normally. Studying with Open Uni so books all over....normally. She had changed. He stopped taking out the rubbish, washing up, cleaning.... not that he'd ever done much. she was all for equality but it was down to her now. I was worried. I've always done it all at home, but her...never. It was not her at all.
She has extremely bad hay fever for big part of summer. He barbeques, whenever he can. No sympathy. makes her go with him. she's a mess. No sympathy, she's putting on the puffy eyes, the swollen face, the can't breath etc. I don't think so. she's dosing up to the hilt, nothing works. She had glandular fever previous year followed by severe bouts of tonsilitis. Has migraines frequently. always has had these things but he gets cross. thinks her job is a matter of sitting on her bum with toddlers around. she is deputy in charge of the nursery, very demanding and big responsibility for her. Very dedicated worker, promoted at 20. I know how hard she works. It exhausts her. She is not allowed to tell him kiddy tales etc. Hard day at the office, he needs time to chill, him in the main room, her out of the way in the bedroom. god how did it come to this????? She is such a self confident girl.
He had jealousy issues, big time. Very possesive. Won't have any of her new friends round the flat.... his place and all that. We visit when invited at designated times. Not much of a welcome from him but who cares. Me and her talk about his problems all the time. she thinks he will get better, I don't. she seems tough and I assume that she will come home when she realises. Our door will always be open.
the more she begins to settle in to the new job and get friends, the less he likes it. She has only been out a handful of times without him over the space of a year (he goes out lots on his own) He is constantly phoning or texting her. She can't answer when driving, so he shouts and swears at her when she gets back to him. Whenever her and I go out he is disbelieving who she is with and where she is. He gets up my nose.
Seems he buys all his family, and I mean all, expensive presents. We hare happy with little ones. That is how it was.He would not be satisfied without soeething good.
She said she was struggling. Just paid her open Uni fees, needed a coat. Not asking for money but we gave her a couple of hundred towards her fees and £100 for herself. Not to tell him about it. She told him........
Xmas. He made a ridiculous move. We mentioned a bloke called Tom who happens to be the father of her friend. He went into a mood all evening. they were staying here for the night. He carried it on through the night. Next day, went out. sent her a text asking who Tom was. she sent one back saying it was her friends Dad. We were there so I think he knew we know what a fool he is. Tactics changed. Past three weeks, no possesiveness, no jealousy...... He's been going to casino, texting girls, more moody and nasty. Won't let her even speak. Not even to ask how his day has been.
Thursday..... She gets phone call. No rent paid for two months. Checks bank account..... empty. Each are supposed to put their half in to cover rent and bills. Her half had gone in both months and been withdrawn. got until monday to pay. I went mad. Told me there was more, he had credit after credit after credit. she was in a turmoil. He would not talk or let her talk. I said she had to tell his parents. She dare not go to see them, would not phone them. He has a box with all his stuff locked away, squirrelled away post which he picks up from the mail box on his way to work every day. she dare not answer the phone. she always phones me back and I never twigged why. I wanted to tell his parents but couldn't find their number. Had a bit of an idea where they lived but only stopped at the end of their road once to drop him off, wouldn't let me see his house. Saw her Friday. Put pressure on to get him to sort himself out. she tried that night. Got a call from her saying she wouldn't be coming the following Friday to visit as that was her day off every week. She always comes over at some point. He was going to be off so they were to go out together. that was strange as she could have told me that nearer the time.
Sat. Night. about 1.30am. Call from him shouting swearing telling me to get my so and so daughter who had just attacked him in a car park or something. Said If I didn't get her and he got her first he would kill her. I phoned her she was in a taxi with a pal on her way to the flat. she was in a state. We got up and drove over. He was in the bedroom getting something from the wardrobe.My Husband flew in and there was a huge scuffle, I got between them. they were hard to get apart the girls had to help. Calming them and sending husband in with girls. Try to talkwith the angry lad. Tell him I know about his money trouble and he needs to see parents. Very agressive but crying. Agreeing it was his mess but would sort it himself. Would not let me help shrugged me off and went out in the car. He was drunk.
Went to talk to her. Discover. Flat in her name only. Used all his credit now using hers. Used all savings...none left. Car loan in her name. about £16,000 in debt to her now. What the hell do we do????? Mystery car crash £900 to get fixed, poor love didn't want to lose his NCD!!!!!!!!
More to come.... he has been attacking her since just after they got the flat. As soon as they had all the contents they needed, it began. He has locked her out in her night clothes for hours, left her sat in car distraught for hours, bruised and injured her by grabbing and bashing her against things. thrown things at her. Justified? Apparently so.... as she has been wittering. Incident where she had supposedly attacked him............ She went out for a drink with work friend as he was going to casino. He told her to go into the city to a club, make a night of it. The girls went. He started phoning saying that he was at the same place to look over to the bar for him, not there, look on the stairs, not there look behind her etc. Then she saw him and his mates. she waved and went over. He looked at her as though she was mad and the lads were laughing. she was embarrrassed. Tried to put her arm round him, he shoved her off. She went to toilet with her friend. Her friend had never met him before. She felt she needed to explain. Went back on to dance floor as decided to brave it out. she felt sick. He came over and grabbed her by her wrist, broke all her bracelets off, just snapped onto the floor. Pushing her backwards and forwards into the dancing crowd. they were pushing her back. One of his mates shouted to her mate to get her off him. She was being held by her wrists. her mate tried to get her free but was, in the process attacked and threatened by him. the both broke free, fleeing the place. People were shouting things at her like doesn't he fancy you etc. As though she was pestering him. She believes now that his friends don't even know who she is, even of her existance. that perhaps he pretends he has the flat by himself. part of his success. Taxi queue seeing how distraught she was let her go to the front.there is still some good in the world eh? At this point I felt
I had no choice, said I was phoning police. she begged me not to said she wouldn't speak to me again. I said it was a risk worth taking. Police there within hour. Statements taken etc. Arrest to be made. Brought the girls to our house. 7am by this time.
Morning in bed no sleep for all. Phoned police no arrest as yet. Went to flat. His car there. Daren't go in. Phone police. Police escort coming. 10mins. We sat in car around corner. they went in arrested him. Her having panic attacks could hardly breath or walk. Back in flat. Empty bottle of Vodka in bin. Remains of food eaten, Ibiza clubbing CD out with headphones, everything just dumped. He must have been so gutted about the night before.......NOT!
she was crying worried about how he would cope. GOD!!!!! Saying if only she'd had time to talk him into getting help from somewhere. Love is blind and all that. I feel like throwing up right now. I told her I take full responsibility for getting police. I say I'll take her to his parents. she can't do it. she will not phone them. I get their number and say I am phoning them. We talk about it. Turn the tables, see what I would have wanted etc. I phone. Get his Dad.
Knows nothing, listens, listens, listens.........fits things into place, answers a lot for him, knew things didn't seem right, but is in shock. Asks me to wait at flat until he has spoken to his wife. phones back. Coming down forthwith. The best of a bad dream, they were very understanding, supported her, knew she was a good girl, sensible, knew it was all down to him. A hard pill to swallowfor them. I admire them greatly. Police phone. End of interview. He has admitted statement about all violence and money is true. Left to go after caution.
He texted. He would call for stuff in morning. Police said he would come now whilst his parents were there.That threw us. He was not told that his parents knew. His dad rang him.Voicemail. Oh god..... He phoned back, unusual. Told his dad he'd been with police, Dad said he knew. He was going to get an hotel for the night. Dad said no, to come home to them. He agreed. Said he would pick his car up and see them at home. That is what happened.
Today I have told her she has to go to work, take her mind off it. Her friend is with her and will explain a bit to her co workers. I am going to ring Nat. debtline. We are lost and shellshocked.
At least no one is dead or dying, I guess. Always look on the bright side etc. etc. Let this be a cautionary tale. Sorry to take up so much space.
Long long story....... will try to compact it.
Daughter 22 met guy 19. Guy was bit flash with cash, money no object, parents had it all. so he said. Wiz kid in finance, great wage so he said. Parents(us) not conviced, daughter, taken in.
she never met any of his mates, parents or any family. Went on a couple of holidays abroad. Got a flat together, posh one, big rent. Furnished flat with the best. Met parents, lovely. Never met friends or other family though he saw all of them regularly without taking her.
Background.... Katy, savings in ISA made up of all savings from family from birth etc. About £4,000. Bought a house at 18 after college with a guy. sold house at 21.. end of relationship. Reasonable profit,money in bank. Bought a car £6,000. rest, not sure of amount but guessed she could have spent it on hols and furniture etc, and stuff. Worried, yes. she'd always worked but only £800 a month as Nursery Nurse. always managed finances without credit. Paid bills on time etc. Was quite proud of her. Him....well. parents were going to give him a huge lumpsum towards house when time came, they had a gite in France which would be his etc. We were sceptical, daughter believed it all!
this flat was about 10 miles from us and even further from her work. She changed the place of work that she loved, cut off all ties with everyone she knew, to make him happy. She hated new job wage £900 a year but less holidays. He moved job from being within walking distance from to home to 10 miles away in the city. better wage/prospects etc. More travel costs. going to get train. He had a car but in his terms was a bit old compared to her almost new one. Had to have his own even better one. Daddy was going to give him no interest loan but only in the near future as money tied up... getting the picture?????? Got himself a loan in intrim £5,000. He'd been so clever with money doing all the credit card 'tarting' but knew all about money, was no fool. She had a couple of cards that she had got on 0% but only used for couple of concert tickets now with zero balance.
they seemed to go out for too many meals, too many days out, too many designer stuff on his part, too much drinking on his part, she hardly drinks anything. usually driving so drinks coke. I lectured both of them about debt etc. tried to convince me they were alright. I was not happy!!!!!!
Flat, a show home. No mess, shoes off at door etc. She is messy normally. Studying with Open Uni so books all over....normally. She had changed. He stopped taking out the rubbish, washing up, cleaning.... not that he'd ever done much. she was all for equality but it was down to her now. I was worried. I've always done it all at home, but her...never. It was not her at all.
She has extremely bad hay fever for big part of summer. He barbeques, whenever he can. No sympathy. makes her go with him. she's a mess. No sympathy, she's putting on the puffy eyes, the swollen face, the can't breath etc. I don't think so. she's dosing up to the hilt, nothing works. She had glandular fever previous year followed by severe bouts of tonsilitis. Has migraines frequently. always has had these things but he gets cross. thinks her job is a matter of sitting on her bum with toddlers around. she is deputy in charge of the nursery, very demanding and big responsibility for her. Very dedicated worker, promoted at 20. I know how hard she works. It exhausts her. She is not allowed to tell him kiddy tales etc. Hard day at the office, he needs time to chill, him in the main room, her out of the way in the bedroom. god how did it come to this????? She is such a self confident girl.
He had jealousy issues, big time. Very possesive. Won't have any of her new friends round the flat.... his place and all that. We visit when invited at designated times. Not much of a welcome from him but who cares. Me and her talk about his problems all the time. she thinks he will get better, I don't. she seems tough and I assume that she will come home when she realises. Our door will always be open.
the more she begins to settle in to the new job and get friends, the less he likes it. She has only been out a handful of times without him over the space of a year (he goes out lots on his own) He is constantly phoning or texting her. She can't answer when driving, so he shouts and swears at her when she gets back to him. Whenever her and I go out he is disbelieving who she is with and where she is. He gets up my nose.
Seems he buys all his family, and I mean all, expensive presents. We hare happy with little ones. That is how it was.He would not be satisfied without soeething good.
She said she was struggling. Just paid her open Uni fees, needed a coat. Not asking for money but we gave her a couple of hundred towards her fees and £100 for herself. Not to tell him about it. She told him........
Xmas. He made a ridiculous move. We mentioned a bloke called Tom who happens to be the father of her friend. He went into a mood all evening. they were staying here for the night. He carried it on through the night. Next day, went out. sent her a text asking who Tom was. she sent one back saying it was her friends Dad. We were there so I think he knew we know what a fool he is. Tactics changed. Past three weeks, no possesiveness, no jealousy...... He's been going to casino, texting girls, more moody and nasty. Won't let her even speak. Not even to ask how his day has been.
Thursday..... She gets phone call. No rent paid for two months. Checks bank account..... empty. Each are supposed to put their half in to cover rent and bills. Her half had gone in both months and been withdrawn. got until monday to pay. I went mad. Told me there was more, he had credit after credit after credit. she was in a turmoil. He would not talk or let her talk. I said she had to tell his parents. She dare not go to see them, would not phone them. He has a box with all his stuff locked away, squirrelled away post which he picks up from the mail box on his way to work every day. she dare not answer the phone. she always phones me back and I never twigged why. I wanted to tell his parents but couldn't find their number. Had a bit of an idea where they lived but only stopped at the end of their road once to drop him off, wouldn't let me see his house. Saw her Friday. Put pressure on to get him to sort himself out. she tried that night. Got a call from her saying she wouldn't be coming the following Friday to visit as that was her day off every week. She always comes over at some point. He was going to be off so they were to go out together. that was strange as she could have told me that nearer the time.
Sat. Night. about 1.30am. Call from him shouting swearing telling me to get my so and so daughter who had just attacked him in a car park or something. Said If I didn't get her and he got her first he would kill her. I phoned her she was in a taxi with a pal on her way to the flat. she was in a state. We got up and drove over. He was in the bedroom getting something from the wardrobe.My Husband flew in and there was a huge scuffle, I got between them. they were hard to get apart the girls had to help. Calming them and sending husband in with girls. Try to talkwith the angry lad. Tell him I know about his money trouble and he needs to see parents. Very agressive but crying. Agreeing it was his mess but would sort it himself. Would not let me help shrugged me off and went out in the car. He was drunk.
Went to talk to her. Discover. Flat in her name only. Used all his credit now using hers. Used all savings...none left. Car loan in her name. about £16,000 in debt to her now. What the hell do we do????? Mystery car crash £900 to get fixed, poor love didn't want to lose his NCD!!!!!!!!
More to come.... he has been attacking her since just after they got the flat. As soon as they had all the contents they needed, it began. He has locked her out in her night clothes for hours, left her sat in car distraught for hours, bruised and injured her by grabbing and bashing her against things. thrown things at her. Justified? Apparently so.... as she has been wittering. Incident where she had supposedly attacked him............ She went out for a drink with work friend as he was going to casino. He told her to go into the city to a club, make a night of it. The girls went. He started phoning saying that he was at the same place to look over to the bar for him, not there, look on the stairs, not there look behind her etc. Then she saw him and his mates. she waved and went over. He looked at her as though she was mad and the lads were laughing. she was embarrrassed. Tried to put her arm round him, he shoved her off. She went to toilet with her friend. Her friend had never met him before. She felt she needed to explain. Went back on to dance floor as decided to brave it out. she felt sick. He came over and grabbed her by her wrist, broke all her bracelets off, just snapped onto the floor. Pushing her backwards and forwards into the dancing crowd. they were pushing her back. One of his mates shouted to her mate to get her off him. She was being held by her wrists. her mate tried to get her free but was, in the process attacked and threatened by him. the both broke free, fleeing the place. People were shouting things at her like doesn't he fancy you etc. As though she was pestering him. She believes now that his friends don't even know who she is, even of her existance. that perhaps he pretends he has the flat by himself. part of his success. Taxi queue seeing how distraught she was let her go to the front.there is still some good in the world eh? At this point I felt
I had no choice, said I was phoning police. she begged me not to said she wouldn't speak to me again. I said it was a risk worth taking. Police there within hour. Statements taken etc. Arrest to be made. Brought the girls to our house. 7am by this time.
Morning in bed no sleep for all. Phoned police no arrest as yet. Went to flat. His car there. Daren't go in. Phone police. Police escort coming. 10mins. We sat in car around corner. they went in arrested him. Her having panic attacks could hardly breath or walk. Back in flat. Empty bottle of Vodka in bin. Remains of food eaten, Ibiza clubbing CD out with headphones, everything just dumped. He must have been so gutted about the night before.......NOT!
she was crying worried about how he would cope. GOD!!!!! Saying if only she'd had time to talk him into getting help from somewhere. Love is blind and all that. I feel like throwing up right now. I told her I take full responsibility for getting police. I say I'll take her to his parents. she can't do it. she will not phone them. I get their number and say I am phoning them. We talk about it. Turn the tables, see what I would have wanted etc. I phone. Get his Dad.
Knows nothing, listens, listens, listens.........fits things into place, answers a lot for him, knew things didn't seem right, but is in shock. Asks me to wait at flat until he has spoken to his wife. phones back. Coming down forthwith. The best of a bad dream, they were very understanding, supported her, knew she was a good girl, sensible, knew it was all down to him. A hard pill to swallowfor them. I admire them greatly. Police phone. End of interview. He has admitted statement about all violence and money is true. Left to go after caution.
He texted. He would call for stuff in morning. Police said he would come now whilst his parents were there.That threw us. He was not told that his parents knew. His dad rang him.Voicemail. Oh god..... He phoned back, unusual. Told his dad he'd been with police, Dad said he knew. He was going to get an hotel for the night. Dad said no, to come home to them. He agreed. Said he would pick his car up and see them at home. That is what happened.
Today I have told her she has to go to work, take her mind off it. Her friend is with her and will explain a bit to her co workers. I am going to ring Nat. debtline. We are lost and shellshocked.
At least no one is dead or dying, I guess. Always look on the bright side etc. etc. Let this be a cautionary tale. Sorry to take up so much space.
Keep on trucking!
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I have just split this from another thread where it was lost in someone else's problem.
Cacran there are a few issues here, domestic violence, possible fraud on the finance side, what is the outcome of calling the police? Have they contaced your daughter?0 -
Hi there
I'm so sorry to hear what you & family are going through hope everything works out & good on you for going to the police & his family.
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oh goodness, where to start. The most important thing, is that she is safe? Has she changed the locks on the flat. Would the land lord do this? Can she move back home with you and give the landlord back the keys, and you lend her the rent she is behind?
Really feel for you. I hope you can work it through ok. However any spending on HIS cards she is NOT responsible for. Unfortunately any spending on hers, she is probably going to have to pay back.
But if she speaks with national debtline, or cab, they might help her write to her creditors ref change of circumstances.
chevI want a job that is less than an hour driving away from my house! Are you listening universe?
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good luck to you and your daughterbe loyal, be loud, be cas, be proud
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So sorry to hear about your daughters situation. The boyfriend sounds like a nasty piece of work. I have had friends in quite similar situations & I just wanted to say to be a bit careful, there is a chance that if you make ur utter hatred of him very obvious you may push her closer to him. If she is scared of him or still thinks that she 'loves' him she may feel even more confused, torn and she may stop confiding in you as she may think it will hurt & upset you. It is very easy to judge this situation from the outside & realise what obvious choices need to be made but she is bang in the middle of it and it sounds like she is very mixed up about it all and vulnerable. You have obviously been wonderfully supportive throughout this whole thing - but you may have to accept things may get worse before she sees the woods for the trees and gets rid of this guy for good. Try not to let your anger etc get in the way if she makes decisions that you dont necessary agree with. If possible you have to let her know how you feel without judging or alienating her. I really hope that she dumps this guy very soon and doesnt waste any precious energy on him ever again.
As for the debts - there is so much amazing advice on these boards and I hope that you find the support you need here.
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Can you ask her to move back in with you and sell her flat?
It's in her name only so hopefully the value would have risen, especially if it's they've spent a lot of money on improvements etc... Any profit from that could go towards paying off the debt.
I can't say what I'd do to him as it would be removed by a moderator!!!Disclaimer: Any spelling mistakes or incorrect grammar is purely coincidental and in no way reflects the intelligence of the author.0 -
Damn, I can't believe i jsut read all that!God made man, man made money, money made man mad0
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So sorry to hear about that. The thing is when it's our children we'll fight tooth and nail and when it hurts them it hurts us. Hope everything gets better soon. I'm sure your daughter thinks you're the best. xOfficial DFW Nerd Club Member no:219In the Court Of The Crimson KingI don't believe in the concept of hell, but if I did I would think of it as filled with people who were cruel to animals.Gary Larson0
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Thanks for all that everyone. However, I think things are getting worse. spoke to her this lunchtime. She is waivering. she's spoken to him and he is soooooooooo sorry. I told her that over my dead body,( sorry, I said this before I got the advice.) I said that she would split us all up as we would not visit her or allow him to come here. I do mean that though. I have never been so sure of anything but I guess I regret that she feels I am being harsh. It may be too late, I may have pushed her towards him already. Me and my husband called unexpected on his parents this afternoon. today there was a change in them.Not at all welcoming, they said they hadn't had much time to talk to the son last night as it was late and he had had a busy day, too much going off to tackle everything at once. Said he was in bed by 10.30pm, that my daughter had phoned him for a talk. They were going to sort things out. No way of him getting back with her. Parents not going to help as he has been in a similar situation regards the money with his last girlfriend, however that was all her fault so they bailed him out. Believe that if you will. I would love to hear her side. His parents said that the son had not agreed fully with the statement made to police. Not the violence bit. Police had told Katy, otherwise. I am trying to get back in touch with police but the 24 hour service has to be called during the day, no one there. How bad is that? Said parents think that she had been following him and his mates and he was probably just trying to push her away, not grabbing and shaking her. We are going to try to get the CCTV looked at if we can. The parents don't want him to go see her without them or someone present. Implying that she could make false allegations. When his parents were at the flat yesterday, her friend, who had been witness to it all and had sustained a tiny cut to her arm and hand, still bleeding when we'd seen it during the violence at the club. The parents of the horror said that they had seen her in pubs before and that she was a bit of a drinker, didn't feel like her story was genuine for some reason. I think it was because she seemed to have been a bit common.How ironic when I have rarely seen such a heavy drinker as their son. The son told them that my daughter was drunk in the club and he'd never seen her that way before. I think maybe this once she was trying to blot things out, don't you? I will tell you she was sober as a judge by the time we saw her. funny what fear can do to you!!!! Her mate also said she had regularly seen the father in the local pub too and that he seemed a genuine guy. Bet she wouldn't like to hear what he'd said about her. I don't know her from Adam to be honest so can't say either way. As I said before, all old friends had been lost. this one was was one of the new ones that will no doubt be binned if he comes back on the scene. I have been o oto Nat debt line, on to CAB got an appointment for 5th March, such a long time but they may get one earlier if they try.Told daughter she has to sort out rent, council tax, gas, electric. Make sure all others are not paid telling creditors of situation. Not sure she is listening, not sure she won't bury her head, wallow in grief and take hom back. this guy should be stopped in his tracks. Oh and further info, he texed her to ask her to phone him, she says. Was that to make his parents think she was chasing him again??? I hope tonight I might get some sleep, just eaten for the first time in a couple of days and am stuffed!!!!! But honestly thanks again. will update you, hope you are not bored. It is helping me, putting in into print.Keep on trucking!0
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to John in debt. Sorry, missed this bit. the flat is rented. She is on a six month contract so has to pay until June. No hope of any money back there.Keep on trucking!0
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