white horse's wet dream

A._Badger

oldvicar wrote: »

It seems there are some strong views on the role of diversity co-ordinators.

I don't know if our local council has one. Can anyone tell me what their job is?

To ensure that the street theatre co-ordinators, five-a-day counsellors and real nappy awareness advisers are properly representative of the GLBT, Black, Asian, Traveller and other 'communities' of course!

Ilya_Ilyich

ILW wrote: »

Prmarily to put minority interest groups to the front of the queue rather than employing the best person for the job.

Oh, will the white man's burden ever end?

sheffield_lad

Have they cut any of the 2000 full time public sector union posts yet? Nope so more fast to trim having them paid by us is a disgrace, the same applies to why almost 50% of council tax goes into the pension pot grrrr

sheffield_lad

ILW wrote: »

Odd how some seem to think that reducing staffing level automatically means a reduction in service. Very often not the case. (Especially in what most agree has been a pretty inefficient public sector).

Indeed less nurses to stand around the station with a bit of luck they will cut them to one per ward and with no chit chat we may actually get a productive nurse who welll err nurses lol

Going4TheDream

ILW wrote: »

In my opinion, employers should be free to employ whoever they wish and just get on with making a go of their business.

I thought they were as long as they can prove they have employed the best person for the job, just in case any one unsuccessful wished to cry discrimination?

ILW

Ilya_Ilyich wrote: »

Oh, will the white man's burden ever end?

Do you think I am white?

Cleaver

ILW wrote: »

Prmarily to put minority interest groups to the front of the queue rather than employing the best person for the job.

That isn't the purpose of diversity in the workplace.

ILW

Cleaver wrote: »

That isn't the purpose of diversity in the workplace.

Tends to be the result though. Especially in the public sector.

Cleaver

ILW wrote: »

Tends to be the result though. Especially in the public sector.

There are indeed a lot of useless people employed in E&D in the public sector, but I think that's often down to organisations misunderstanding the purpose and point of the whole issue. I still think that any organisation, public or private, who takes equality and diversity issues seriously and 'gets it'. will be a better organisation both in terms of being an employer to staff and generating income / saving money. There's plenty of research to support that notion too.

grizzly1911

Shame it is the poorest workers, at the coal face, that seem to be getting hit. BBC NW tonight reporting that in Cheshire:-

Hourly paid support workers for less able in society are having their enhanced (weekend and anti social hours) pay cut by C.£1000 a year whilst the 9 - 5 office dollies and pen pushers remain unscathed. Funny that.

Separately if staff simply transfer to pension after VR/CR we as taxpayers don't really save, we are now just paying for staff that are not productive at all. I am not against fairly accrued pension, just that it hasn't really been accrued even though the staff do contribute their contracted amount. I'm with Howee on that one, for a change.

Howee with what knowledge do you make your assertion about nursing staff? From my knowledge of the NHS it isn't the clinicians that are the problem, more the guys in suits with clipboards, forever reinventing the wheel, to justify their own existence. The clinicians are often ensuring they jump through the next set of hoops for that new wheel.