September CPI hits 5.2% - figures to set rises in benefits

Graham_Devon

ukcarper wrote: »

I can only go by people I know and they have found it very hard to find jobs and a lot of the jobs they get are part time. Did no English people apply for the job the Hungarian person filled? At my wife’s company 100 people applied for a minimum wage warehouse job before they closed the applications that is in the South East.

It's unfair of me to be using the example I used really. No, no one applied for the job. He just came in and asked us if we had anything that we required doing, and handed us a letter detailing his skills.

We took him on for a few hours a week. It wasn't an advertised job, but we were very VERY impressed with his ethics and willingness to go the extra mile in the first place. Hence he now works in 5 business's in a small town.

Any other english lad or lass with a few skills could have done the same. But theres no need, they don't have to.

ukcarper

hallmark wrote: »

Minimum wage in this country is high, sky-high compared to most of the world.

Work 60-hours a week on minimum wage & you can earn a fair bit & a 60-hour week is hardly difficult, I've averaged that or more in most jobs I've done.

The reason 500 people applied for 20 jobs is that none of them had any skills anyone else wanted to pay for. That is their own problem.

That might sound harsh but I don't actually mean it that way, it's simple truth. I've been in that situation, I didn't like it & I worked like a dog to get skills that I knew were in demand so I could get out of it. If by some chance my current skills were suddenly out of demand I'd pick some new ones & do the same thing again. Anyone* can do this, the only people who say they can't are the one's who won't make the effort.




*excluding the genuinely infirm or the elderly, who in many cases can't help themselves & therefore should be being looked after by the rest of us.

But if everybody had the ability to do that and did you might not have got that job.

hallmark

It's really boring trying to reason with someone who's only response to anything is to whine about how difficult & impossible everything is.

Most of the world would give anything to live in the UK with the opportunities it offers. If you can't see that I can't help you. No more from me on this tonight, got to be up for work tomorrow.

ukcarper

hallmark wrote: »

It's really boring trying to reason with someone who's only response to anything is to whine about how difficult & impossible everything is.

Most of the world would give anything to live in the UK with the opportunities it offers. If you can't see that I can't help you. No more from me on this tonight, got to be up for work tomorrow.

I'm not whining about how difficult it is and if I lost my job I would do all I could to retrain. But you don’t seem to realise that not all people have the same opportunities or abilities. Deliberately avoiding work is one thing but not being able to find suitable work or having the opportunity or ability to find work is another.

Graham_Devon

ukcarper wrote: »

I'm not whining about how difficult it is and if I lost my job I would do all I could to retrain. But you don’t seem to realise that not all people have the same opportunities or abilities. Deliberately avoiding work is one thing but not being able to find suitable work or having the opportunity or ability to find work is another.

Is it not more about not being able to find a job which actually pays your living costs?

heathcote123

ukcarper wrote: »

But if everybody had the ability to do that and did you might not have got that job.

The vast majority do have the ability, it's just human nature to be lazy if the option is there.

ukcarper

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Is it not more about not being able to find a job which actually pays your living costs?

As I’ve shown earlier you are nearly always better off in work, whether the amount justifies working is up to the individual I suppose. But if you are working you have more chance of improving your income than if you don’t.

oldvicar

To return to the theme which started the thread. The 5.2% rate of CPI inflation means that certain benefits, including the state pension, and also occupational public sector pensions, will go up by 5.2%. That's 0.4% LESS than they would be if the link with RPI hadn't been broken. Its amazing how the government has almost managed to spin thisin to a 'good news' story.