Rightmove October 2011 +2.8%

SteveV2

Rightmove should have a live average house price on their entire listings.

The data would mean something then.

Percy1983

reweird wrote: »

A man-baby doesn't know what a real man is nor what it takes to be one, hence you're still living under the parental purse and rools. So go ask your mammy - that's assuming she's ever met a real man.

You keep saying this but please enlighten me how much I have taken from my mums purse and what rules my parents have set I live by?

As far as I can see they have more money and the only rules I live by are those set by myself (or the law I guess).

Of course you know better so you can help educate a child here.

With that is it correct real men do try and belittle others, I will admit I must still be a child as I have never learned that skill.

Back on topic, personally I don't expect and massive crashes but very much a stagnation leading to falls in real terms, as it is it does seem the crash is on around me but I know I am not in a typical area as such.

ukcarper

Percy1983 wrote: »

You keep saying this but please enlighten me how much I have taken from my mums purse and what rules my parents have set I live by?

As far as I can see they have more money and the only rules I live by are those set by myself (or the law I guess).

Of course you know better so you can help educate a child here.

With that is it correct real men do try and belittle others, I will admit I must still be a child as I have never learned that skill.

Back on topic, personally I don't expect and massive crashes but very much a stagnation leading to falls in real terms, as it is it does seem the crash is on around me but I know I am not in a typical area as such.

Percy stop arguing with reweird it’s pointless, I left home a 22 but I still think you are doing the right thing.

reweird

Percy1983 wrote: »

You keep saying this but please enlighten me how much I have taken from my mums purse and what rules my parents have set I live by?

As far as I can see they have more money and the only rules I live by are those set by myself (or the law I guess).

Of course you know better so you can help educate a child here.

With that is it correct real men do try and belittle others, I will admit I must still be a child as I have never learned that skill.

Back on topic, personally I don't expect and massive crashes but very much a stagnation leading to falls in real terms, as it is it does seem the crash is on around me but I know I am not in a typical area as such.

Firstly on to the finances. You freely admit that by living under your parents roof you can save additional pennies each month. These additional pennies that you are saving are the ones being directly subsidized by your parents to warm, feed, and shelter you, because had you be living out on the real world, standing on your own two feet, these extra pennies would be spent on sustaining yourself and your life. Vis a vis, you are living out of your parents purse and off their backs to personally gain financially. Secondly on to rules. Obviously, while you don't stand on your own two feet, and live and support your own an independent life, in someone elses household then there are obviously other people's rules to live by and adhere to - most notably the head of the house. Or don't tell me that, not only are you disrespectful to your parents finances, you also walk carte blanche over their rules too?

Percy1983

I am still failing to see how my parents having MORE money while I am here is me living out of there purse, yes I agree I also have more money to save up for a house, so they gain and I gain, everybody is happy. What is the problem again?

Google: mutually beneficial relationship

As for rules, I suppose we do all treat each other with respect but is that just good morals (like not trying to belittle people).

Google: Morals.

To say I am just a child I do seem to know a lot, of course you will disagree as its impossible to know such things living at home apparently.

So please google as mentioned above and get back to me on what is wrong with mutually beneficial relationships and morals.

I look forward to your highly intelligent manly reply (as you wouldn't dream of name calling of course).

Answers on a postcard.

Le_Chuck

Sibley wrote: »

A rise in any of the index's is good news.
What we don't need to see are any type of falls that will give the HPC gang hope.

They will be sick with this news.
Home owners and sellers only want to this these type of stories and totally blank bad news.
We don't do house price reductions for anyone

Wrong. I own my home (outright) and want prices to drop. As its financially better for me

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

geneer wrote: »

Prices did fall. Significantly.

True.

But then they recovered. Significantly.

Nominal falls are already greater than the 90's crash (and likely to increase).

False.

Nominal falls for most of the UK are now around half what they were in the 90's crash, after the immensely sharper recovery than was experienced in the 90's.

You have admitted the same previously.

False.

I have however noted that bears had a bigger nominal terms crash, then missed that window of opportunity to buy at the bottom as prices recovered rapidly.

As such, it is reasonable to conclude that you are trolling.

I debate the facts. You troll all the time.

And you admit it, as well.

Your assertion that prices are "stable or rising in 2/3 of the UK" is intellectually dishonest, and doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

It stands up to scrutiny perfectly.

As per both the RICS report and Hometrack report showing very similar figures.

Again, you yourself have discussed the problems with the high level blunt averages...when it suited you to do so.

Ah yes, the "high level blunt averages" that can cause falling prices to be shown when most areas in the UK are experiencing stable or rising prices.

Again, it is reasonable to conclude that you are trolling.

Do you know, if you could just mention "banal", "spurious" and "embittered fall back position", I do believe today's round of 'geneer bingo' will be won.:)

geneer

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

True.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

But then they recovered. Significantly.

A picture paints a thousand words.

So, nah, not that significant really. And even then your “new peaks” have been proven to be somewhat less meaningful that you like to give them credit for on numerous occasions.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

False.
Nominal falls for most of the UK are now around half what they were in the 90's crash, after the immensely sharper recovery than was experienced in the 90's.

According Nationwide, your cherry picked index of choice right.
Doesn’t work that way Hamish.

According to Halifax house prices fell 13% nominally in the 90’s.
Currently, according to Halifax, house prices have fallen by nearly 20%.

According to Nationwide house prices fell 20% nominally in the 90’s.
Currently, according to Nationwide house prices have fallen by 11%.
Although this was closer to 13% at the start of the year.

Oh and land reg currently shows falls of approx 13%.

Working on the basis that reality is somewhere inbetween, and, oh gosh, if it doesn’t look like nominal falls now are about the same as the 90’s.

Look Hamish. Facts beat assertion. Every. Single. Time.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

False.

I have however noted that bears had a bigger nominal terms crash, then missed that window of opportunity to buy at the bottom as prices recovered rapidly.

The rapid recover that turned out to be not all that significant?
The rapid recovery that appears to be heavily skewed by low volumes and a failing FTB market?
What ever you say. :rotfl:

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

I debate the facts. You troll all the time.
And you admit it, as well.

You ignore the facts and rely on unsubstantiated assertion (as you’ve just done repeatedly).
I admit and have admitted a bit of trolling on occasion.
Which many posters including yourself clearly do.
That I admit this simply means I am not a hypocrite. Unlike some.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

It stands up to scrutiny perfectly.
As per both the RICS report and Hometrack report showing very similar figures.

Rics and hometrack.
:rotfl:Ok then.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Ah yes, the "high level blunt averages" that can cause falling prices to be shown when most areas in the UK are experiencing stable or rising prices.
.

Meaningless assertion. Again.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Do you know, if you could just mention "banal", "spurious" and "embittered fall back position", I do believe today's round of 'geneer bingo' will be won.

If the cap fits Hamish.
If the cap fits…..

I wonder what a game of Hamish Bingo would be like.
Pretty easy I imagine.

geneer

Hamish has elected not to respond on this occasion.

As someone once said.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Why am I not surprised.;)