Dave urges people to report illegal immigrants

wotsthat

UK Prime Minister David Cameron says he "wants everyone in the country" to help "reclaim our borders" by reporting suspected illegal immigrants.

In a speech setting out measures to tighten immigration rules, Mr Cameron said people should report suspicions to Crimestoppers and the UK Border Agency.

This makes me uncomfortable. How is anyone meant to know who is an illegal immigrant?

If the government is serious about illegal immigration surely they are in a better position to deal with it rather than relying on tip offs from the public.

Graham_Devon

wotsthat wrote: »

This makes me uncomfortable. How is anyone meant to know who is an illegal immigrant?

They don't have to know. They just have to suspect.

Kinda the reason he's asking for people to report suspected illegal immigrants I expect.

Just the same as benefits really. You report suspected benefit fraud, and then it may (if you are lucky) get looked into. You don't have to know for absolute sure.

PasturesNew

Sometimes you can tell... I had a builder doing some work on my house about 6 years ago and he told me he'd done some work at the house of a local kebab shop owner.... there was a wide landing and he wanted built in "wardrobes" with wide shelves.... for his illegals to sleep on/in.

I don't know of any - and you might not - but many people do.

leveller2911

As Graham posted theres no difference between reporting benefit fraud and illigal immigration and as anyone who has reported someone for benefit fraud will tell you its rare for an investigation to be carried out.

A good friend of mine works in Folkstone and the office is responsible for around 30-40,000 people and they have 3 fraud investigators to look into benefit fraud so TBH its just "Lip-service " from Dave........

atush

It wouldn't make me uncomfortable. I expect it is anonymous and if they aren't no harm no foul

As a legal immigrant to the UK (of longstanding and no benefits taken or used in 20 years other than CB), I am not happy that others can come illegally. I would report any that I knew of.

wotsthat

I suspect that the government do not have enough resource or intend to allocate resource to dealing with the tip offs they are going to receive.

That combined with EDL and BNP members flooding the helpline will mean very little is actually done.

leveller2911

wotsthat wrote: »

That combined with EDL and BNP members flooding the helpline will mean very little is actually done.

So are you saying the BNP and EDL flood the Benefit fraud hotline already?.......Are they to blame for the total lack of action to weed out Benefit fraudsters?.

Personally I think think they would make little if any difference. There are spiteful Right and Left wingers and it has little to do with race and colour.

wotsthat

leveller2911 wrote: »

So are you saying the BNP and EDL flood the Benefit fraud hotline already?.......Are they to blame for the total lack of action to weed out Benefit fraudsters?.

I doubt that BNP or EDL would go anywhere near a benefit fraud hotline.

A phoneline for reporting suspected illegal immigrants might be more up their street though.

vax2002

wotsthat wrote: »

This makes me uncomfortable. How is anyone meant to know who is an illegal immigrant?

how exactly does this make you feel uncomfortable ?
Are you an illegal immigrant, are you employing illegal immigrants ?
Or do you just feel sorry for fictitious people you have never met ?
Perhaps its political and you think we should open up the borders, if that is the case, how many spare rooms and sofas do you have ?
Why not advertise your space on here and take a few in.
Or perhaps you feel uncomfortable in working people fighting back who have lost jobs and homes to illegal immigration, fighting for their children to have a future, a job, a home.
Maybe this is what makes you feel uncomfortable ?

leveller2911

Its as easy for an English speaking Black or Coloured person to report an illigal immigrant as any White English speaker and the debate shouldn't resport to the same old racial discrimination arguements.

wotsthat

vax2002 wrote: »

Maybe this is what makes you feel uncomfortable ?

No not really.

An illegal immigrant is a person who has entered the UK illegally - how would I suspect this unless I'd seen them hanging off the underside of a lorry.

I'm not an employer so don't see peoples NI documentation and I don't pay cash for work done by tradesmen. I buy takeaway food but assume that HMRC, Environmental Health, Customs & Excise are better placed to judge hence I don't ask for ID from the employees.

How do you spot them? Is it just being non-white and not speaking English very well - that would seem to be the primary criteria that EDL & BNP members would use.

What are your criteria?