Which Anti spam program?

krishna

ollyk wrote:

3. Does your account allow for secondary emails? use these for friends and primary email for important things be carefull what and more importantly how you fill forms & accounts in and I promise you will not get spam.

Well, you will probably still get spam, though it may be easier to filter out.

j_davies

vinylmusic wrote:

Thats good to know but is it enforcable?

Well I would presume so under the data protection act so if its passed by law I suppose it must be enforceable.

How can you prove it?

To prove an emails spam and that they have sent you unwanted mail? If so keep the email and send it onto the nessecary authorities because if its a malicious email that may carry a virus that damage to property (thats why firms or people/spotty geeks get prosecuted)

Who can you report it to?

All depends on the content really, say if someone sent you a spam email or even an ex sent you an email saying you caused a crime thats defamation or character and libelous, so maybe the police and or also the ISP or registrant of the email.

Who's going to take any notice and do something about it?

As said all depends on the content, I had spam from a company who were always filling my inbox so I phoned up the company on their free phone number and went mental at the IT guy and he said he did it to impress his boss as sales may go up needless to say no spam from then on

In absolute numbers
1978 - An e-mail spam is sent to 600 addresses.[8]
1994 - First large-scale spam sent to 6000 newsgroups, reaching millions of people.[9][10]
2005 - (June) 30 billion per day[7]
2006 - (June) 55 billion per day[7]
2006 - (December) 85 billion per day


This is very interesting.

Theres a section on legality aswell

vinylmusic

If you want to advertise your email address on a website or a newsgroup theres a way to do it so that spam spiders won't pick it up. Its very simple really.
disguise the @ by putting (at) instead.

yourname(at)yourisp.com

Anyone with reasonabe intellegence will understand to put the @ back where it belongs

Also for websites try using forms where people can fill in their details and a message and it comes through as an email.
I do this on my website.
take a look: http://www.vinylmusic.co.uk/contact_us.php
Another advantage from this method is that they always come through with the same header allowing me to easily seperate them from spam

moonrakerz

cwoodham wrote:

There is another possibility which someone pointed out on another thread. Because you can put anything before mydomainname.com you could use a unique identifier for each person you give your email address to, e.g. [EMAIL="yournametheirname@mydomainname.com"]yournametheirname@mydomainname.com[/EMAIL]

That way if spam came back to you with that particular email address as 'sender' you would know who passed it on or whose PC address book had been raided by the spammers and you could advise them to tighten up their security. HTH

This method has more advantages. Because you know the source of the "leak" of your address to the spammers, you can block anything sent to that address, and if you still wish to communicate with who ever passed your address to the spammers (possibly unwittingly !) you just modify the address you use to deal with that company - put a "1" after it, or something.

Loobeylou

Have looked on the Cloudmark website but cannot find anything which states how much this costs after the 15 day trial (single/home user option).

Anyone got any ideas please?

Also, can anyone else besides krishna recommend this - has anyone had problems with it?

I have Windows XP, Outlook and Norton - can anyone explain what the difference is in Outlook between the Junk E-mail folder and the Norton Anti-Spam folder? I seem to get rubbish into both.

krishna

Loobeylou wrote:

Have looked on the Cloudmark website but cannot find anything which states how much this costs after the 15 day trial (single/home user option).

Anyone got any ideas please?

Also, can anyone else besides krishna recommend this - has anyone had problems with it?

I have Windows XP, Outlook and Norton - can anyone explain what the difference is in Outlook between the Junk E-mail folder and the Norton Anti-Spam folder? I seem to get rubbish into both.

It's US$39.95 a year. If you click on Buy Now and then click on the "buy 1 to 9 licenses" it will tell you. Note each license can be used on up to 2 PCs.

I'd never heard of it either, until I started a new job a couple of years ago and they were using it there.

The Junk Email folder in outlook is the folder Outlook's own spam filtering system uses to dump mail it identifies as spam. I think this only started in Outlook 2003 because I don't get this in Outlook 2000. Norton's antispam folder will be the same but I guess must be the default folder set up by norton for mail IT identifies as spam. If you use cloudmark, it will create a folder named "Spam" that does the same thing. I'm sure it must be possible to change the folder settings so that all mail identified as spam ends up in the same place. And then you can probably delete the superfluous folders.

Loobeylou

krishna wrote:

The Junk Email folder in outlook is the folder Outlook's own spam filtering system uses to dump mail it identifies as spam. I think this only started in Outlook 2003 because I don't get this in Outlook 2000. Norton's antispam folder will be the same but I guess must be the default folder set up by norton for mail IT identifies as spam. If you use cloudmark, it will create a folder named "Spam" that does the same thing. I'm sure it must be possible to change the folder settings so that all mail identified as spam ends up in the same place. And then you can probably delete the superfluous folders.

OK krishna, thanks for explaining all of that. However, if Norton is already putting spam into it's own folder, then what is the difference between that and Cloudmark? Or is is that Cloudmark picks up more spam? Some spam at the present time is not going into the Norton Spam folder but arrives in my Inbox. Most of the time I am aware it is spam because these days I use a throwaway Yahoo account when filling in forms, so I just send it to the "Deleted Items" which I then empty once a week or so.

And yes, I do have Outlook 2003.

vinylmusic

Loobeylou wrote:

OK krishna, thanks for explaining all of that. However, if Norton is already putting spam into it's own folder, then what is the difference between that and Cloudmark? Or is is that Cloudmark picks up more spam? Some spam at the present time is not going into the Norton Spam folder but arrives in my Inbox. Most of the time I am aware it is spam because these days I use a throwaway Yahoo account when filling in forms, so I just send it to the "Deleted Items" which I then empty once a week or so.

And yes, I do have Outlook 2003.

Personally I think that although Norton is very professional and efficient It costs money every year that you want to use it.

Its a great hogger of system rescources

And why pay for something that you can get for free

I'm now using AVG antivirus, Ccleaner and Spybot S&D. All of them are free
I defrag my hard drive each month and I recently added Spamihilator
My system has been running very smoothly for months now and I haven't spent a penny:j
See Martin's article:"Kit out your PC for free"

Loobeylou

I guess I am going to have to wait until my Norton runs out, but that is not for some time.

However, how do I go about all of this? Do I completely remove Norton and then download the freebies, or the other way around.

Also, I have a firewall with Norton. How do I go about getting an alternative?

PS - Can I run Ccleaner with Windows XP and the Norton or are there clashes I should be aware of? I already have Spybot.

krishna

Loobeylou wrote:

However, if Norton is already putting spam into it's own folder, then what is the difference between that and Cloudmark? Or is is that Cloudmark picks up more spam?

Exactly. There are lots of antispam solutions and it is just about finding the best one for you. Norton is picking up some spam, but Cloudmark will pick up more. Outlook 2003 should already be picking up spam itself and putting it in its junkmail folder too. If you want a free solution then Cloudmark is not for you. If free solutions work for you then great.

I use AVG Free (antivirus) at home, with Kerio Personal Firewall (again free) and Thunderbird for email (again free). And Thunderbird's built in antispam filter is good enough for me at home.

At work we use Nod-32 antivirus (not free) which I think is better than AVG, but I don't want to pay for it at home. We have been using Thunderbird for email (and antispam), but it's just not good enough for us any more, so RELUCTANTLY, we are going to have to return to MS Outlook in order to be able to take advantage of the only affordable and reliable antispam solution I can find - Cloudmark. Experimented with other things, but we really can't cope at work with having to retrain spam filters from scratch. That's the advantage of Cloudmark. All cloudmark users globally are marking spam out for you. So while it doesn't catch EVERY bit of spam - that would be impossible, without risking losing some genuine emails - it does get it down to a very manageable amount, and you can then do your bit for the rest of the cloudmark community by marking up the remaining few items as spam so that nobody else has to do that.

CCleaner won't conflict with Norton or anything else for that matter. It's just a tool to help you tidy up your PC.