Journalist Wanted - Gambling Commission Complaint

bobajob_1966

tomwakefield wrote: »

Would you advocate a total alcohol ban too, for the same reasons?

How would you prevent dodgy bookies springing up to take the money of compulsive gamblers?

This is a really good point - at the moment the industry is (IMO) well regulated. Take it underground and you have the same problems that drug addicts encounter.

michael1983l

Sorry to not reply further to some of the questions but I must stop now. Thanks to those that have genuinely tried to help.

tomwakefield

michael1983l wrote: »

...of course the vendors have no responsibility to my gambling habbits, it is all my own sole responsibility.

On the contrary, bookies are bearing some responsibility (for instance, they have software that you can instantly set a limit for yourself), and I think most people here would say that's a good thing, but you're arguing for them to shoulder all the burden and for the gambler to bear none of it at all.

bobajob_1966

michael1983l wrote: »

But you are choosing to take the drug, much like I had coosen to gamble. I do not see the difference.

You choose to take a drug that normally gives people a high. The drug is too much for your system and kills you. Causation is established.

You gamble and become depressed as a result of your debts. You decide to end your life because you are depressed. Causation is not established - the gambling did not kill you, you killed yourself.

michael1983l

tomwakefield wrote: »

On the contrary, bookies are bearing some responsibility (for instance, they have software that you can instantly set a limit for yourself), and I think most people here would say that's a good thing, but you're arguing for them to shoulder all the burden and for the gambler to bear none of it at all.

No I am not, if that was the case I would be asking for my money back, that I am not. My grievence is that some way part my binge period they could have tried to stop me or insisted that I speak to a proffesional before they continue to serve me any longer.

I wish I had been stopped half way through my binge period as I would be in half as less money trouble and my wedding ring would not be sitting down the pawnbrokers right now.

michael1983l

bobajob_1966 wrote: »

You choose to take a drug that normally gives people a high. The drug is too much for your system and kills you. Causation is established.

You gamble and become depressed as a result of your debts. You decide to end your life because you are depressed. Causation is not established - the gambling did not kill you, you killed yourself.

I am glad for you that you never make any poor decisions and that you will never need any protection from yourself. I solute you good sir.

bobajob_1966

michael1983l wrote: »

I am glad for you that you never make any poor decisions and that you will never need any protection from yourself. I solute you good sir.

Did you miss when I said I was bipolar? I have made endless bad decisions when I have been high, but rather than blaming others, I have found ways to manage my condition.

tomwakefield

michael1983l wrote: »

No I am not, if that was the case I would be asking for my money back, that I am not. My grievence is that some way part my binge period they could have tried to stop me or insisted that I speak to a proffesional before they continue to serve me any longer.

Let's suppose firstly, that they suggest you seek help. Would you listen to them, or would you ignore the advice and carry on? You'd probably carry on.

So let's say you'd have to prove to them that you've been seeking help or they'd stop serving you. Then you'd have stopped trying to place bets there. And then you would have most likely gone to a different bookie. Or made an online account. Or asked someone else to place the bets for you. Or done it over the phone. Or... or... or... If you're desperate to gamble, you will find a way.

The point is, you want a legally set limit which is less than the amount you gambled, so you can demonstrate that it was the bookies fault you gambled that much due to a failure of their duty of care, rather than your fault. Suppose a limit was set at £2,000 a day, would that satisfy you?

duckeggblue

Part of bi-polar can be a feeling of isolation. I gues there are different grades too. I guess that is part of your feeling at the moment.
You need as much support an possible micheal.Yes,you have a mental illness,so do many others.
People on the internet reply to a post in an instant,lets hope they,or their family,never experience what you have.But then,perhaps it would make them kinder,more understanding people.good luck.

tomwakefield

duckeggblue wrote: »

Part of bi-polar can be a feeling of isolation. I gues there are different grades too. I guess that is part of your feeling at the moment.
You need as much support an possible micheal.Yes,you have a mental illness,so do many others.
People on the internet reply to a post in an instant,lets hope they,or their family,never experience what you have.But then,perhaps it would make them kinder,more understanding people.good luck.

It's naive to believe that no-one has any idea what the OP is feeling, just because they disagree with them.

People could have been in similar situations, but acted in a different way and looked for different ways out of their problems.

Do alcoholics suggest that alcohol is nationally made illegal to protect 'the most vulnerable'? Or do they simply takes steps to ensure it can no longer influence them personally?