Tax credits, is this true?

Jessikita1983

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

Well, there you go. Unlike those less fortunate than yourself, you have the security of home ownership and the comfort that you will be able to pass it on to your child(ren) who, when they arrive, will make use of the education and health system you have so honourably paid into. Not such a waste of money after all.

Less fortunate???! I seriously doubt that!

All the people on benefits that I see, seem to do ok. They all have big screen TV's, the latest sky package, chain smoke, drink 8 tinnies a day, afford a holiday at least once a day and wear designer clothes.

All while they never actually do any work and have been long term unemployed, voluntary. Every time we recruit we can never fill the jobs!

So how these people are "less fortunate" than me I will never no.

So after working my whole life and constantly paying into the system I don't see how I can be begrudged a little moan about them removing the only thing I will ever claim (assumsing the rumour I have heard is wrong)

As for my children using the Schools, NHS, etc in principle I do not disagree with you. But again, I find it frustrating that I will contribute so much and others NOTHING but take.

PasturesNew

Think how people who don't have any children ever feel...

Jessikita1983

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

The UC bill is still working it's way through both houses (with the Lords now, I understand). Until that is complete, nothing is concrete. But I do believe that the notion of a family earning a substantial wage receiving means tested benefits is one part of their cost saving ambition, yes.

The people who SHOULD be bitter are those with no children on a very modest wage. I'm sure they must wonder why THEY should pay YOU to breed? Maybe their prayers will be answered.

I completely agree with you in theory, if you have kids it should be your responsibility to pay for them. Not people to pay me to breed.

But you are missing my point, it is isn't that I have some kind of self righteous entitlement to money to breed.

My frustration come from everyone else up until now being paid to breed, on my contributions, then when I finally decide my situation is secure enough to breed, I get nothing. That is my point.

Not that i think I have some god given right to anything. That is my point!

Jessikita1983

PasturesNew wrote: »

Think how people who don't have any children ever feel...

Completely agree.

sarahevie

I've said it before and I'll say it again, it isn't fair that an unemployed couple with two children can claim nearly £22K in benefits, this is not salary, but benefits.

Yet my partner and I work around 70 hours between us for £3K more per annum than if we were on benefits. This doesn't include healthy start, medical care, or the other 'perks' that come from being on a 'low income'. Plus thinking about it many single parents also get maintenance which is disregarded when calculating benefits, I see where the OP is coming from.

BrettMorganxD

Jessikita1983 wrote: »

I DO NOT NEED MONEY MANAGEMENT ADVICE!!!! http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...785&highlight=

I do very well indeed managing my money. Every penny I earn.

as you can see I say I do not need the £545, but maybe when you have been working since you were 13, full time since you were 16 and you have constantly paid tax etc, and in the last few years seen everyone else on your salary get tax credits since they were introduced, and you finally get your chance to claim and they then yet again you hear they may change the boundaries you are going to wonder if this is true or not!

Sorry, did not mean to offend. I wouldn't worry about it. You have been working since you were 13, and paying full taxes and national insurance. While it is frustrating you cannot get the benefits youhave so rightfully paid into, you have always got your self-respect, and mine .

Well done, again sory if I offended you.

SingleSue

Jessikita1983 wrote: »

Less fortunate???! I seriously doubt that!

All the people on benefits that I see, seem to do ok. They all have big screen TV's, the latest sky package, chain smoke, drink 8 tinnies a day, afford a holiday at least once a day and wear designer clothes.

All while they never actually do any work and have been long term unemployed, voluntary. Every time we recruit we can never fill the jobs!

So how these people are "less fortunate" than me I will never no.

So after working my whole life and constantly paying into the system I don't see how I can be begrudged a little moan about them removing the only thing I will ever claim (assumsing the rumour I have heard is wrong)

As for my children using the Schools, NHS, etc in principle I do not disagree with you. But again, I find it frustrating that I will contribute so much and others NOTHING but take.

I am on benefits, not voluntarily, I do not have a big screen TV, I do not drink, do not wear designer clothes (can't see the point to be honest, complete waste of money), no sky, no smoking and have one holiday per year...in a freebie caravan provided by my parents and their friends.

As for moving the goal posts, happened to me time and again...when I went on maternity leave it was rather stringent in time scale!

Mind you, your post could have been made by me in my before benefits life, I thought the same of those who received state help, so in a way, I can understand where you are coming from.

Jessikita1983

BrettMorganxD wrote: »

Sorry, did not mean to offend. I wouldn't worry about it. You have been working since you were 13, and paying full taxes and national insurance. While it is frustrating you cannot get the benefits youhave so rightfully paid into, you have always got your self-respect, and mine .

Well done, again sory if I offended you.

You did not offend no worries, I am very open minded and will debate anything with anyone without taking it personally!

I just thought you were missing my point, it wasn't money management issue. Nor do I think I am entitled to anything morally. I just see everyone else getting everything and I thought I might, for once get a tiny tiny slice.... but now it seems not!

Jessikita1983

SingleSue wrote: »

I am on benefits, not voluntarily, I do not have a big screen TV, I do not drink, do not wear designer clothes (can't see the point to be honest, complete waste of money), no sky, no smoking and have one holiday per year...in a freebie caravan provided by my parents and their friends.

As for moving the goal posts, happened to me time and again...when I went on maternity leave it was rather stringent in time scale!

Mind you, your post could have been made by me in my before benefits life, I thought the same of those who received state help, so in a way, I can understand where you are coming from.

Forgive my awful stereotyping! I was was frustrated as a few seemed to miss my point!

sarahevie

According to the current entitledto.co.uk you are still entited to the CB and the tax credits at the rate you stated.