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The Benefits System
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it is all about state of mind. i went to a normal comprehensive school, but the people I went to school with all had the same thinking - that they would do exams, go to university and get a job (or in some cases, no uni, just get a job) - and they all did. not one person thought they would spend their lives on benefits.
these generations of scum on benefits have the mind set that they will never work and they don't. the lefty has told them it is alright. the lefty has made every excuse for them. the lefty has made it possible.
it is always the fault of the lefty. always.0 -
Somebody has to shoot down the ideas that are just plain silly, because only then can any real progress be made.You are a good example of an excuser, a barrier, a naysayer.
Food stamps? What stops the local shopkeeper accepting them for beer and fags?
Tidying parks? Round here, you'd have about 10,000 unemployed per park. Them parks would be very very tidy, but nobody else would be able to get in.
So how about we get down to the real problem? People don't like what claimants spend their money on.
Nothing new there. Back in the Thirties, the paid-up bourgeois leftie George Orwell complained about how the poor spent their money - not people on the dole, but workers spending their own money. He figured they could have a perfectly nutritious diet of carrot soup and stuff for about 1s 3d a week, but they wasted their money on ice cream and fish and chips, so what right did they have to complain about being poor?"It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
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The_White_Horse wrote: »it is all about state of mind. i went to a normal comprehensive school, but the people I went to school with all had the same thinking - that they would do exams, go to university and get a job (or in some cases, no uni, just get a job) - and they all did. not one person thought they would spend their lives on benefits.
these generations of scum on benefits have the mind set that they will never work and they don't. the lefty has told them it is alright. the lefty has made every excuse for them. the lefty has made it possible.
it is always the fault of the lefty. always.
100% TRUE.
Its just going to get more and more out of hand until the government actually do something about it.
The next generation of 14 year old girls are now spitting kids out around here, i went to school with a couple of their mothers and fathers and they have never worked and neither will their kids.
I find it quite amusing that the scumbags think this can go on forever:rotfl:0 -
Somebody has to shoot down the ideas that are just plain silly, because only then can any real progress be made.
Food stamps? What stops the local shopkeeper accepting them for beer and fags?
Tidying parks? Round here, you'd have about 10,000 unemployed per park. Them parks would be very very tidy, but nobody else would be able to get in.
So how about we get down to the real problem? People don't like what claimants spend their money on.
Nothing new there. Back in the Thirties, the paid-up bourgeois leftie George Orwell complained about how the poor spent their money - not people on the dole, but workers spending their own money. He figured they could have a perfectly nutritious diet of carrot soup and stuff for about 1s 3d a week, but they wasted their money on ice cream and fish and chips, so what right did they have to complain about being poor?
Its quite simple for a food stamp system to work, and if it doesnt then the government can just give the benefit claimants the actual food and clothing.
I fully admit that i do not like benefit claimants spending my tax on, cocaine, smack, weed, beer, pills, speed, absolutely massive fu**ing tvs, holidays, cars, !!!! up round town on a friday night and so on.
If benefit claimants have money to spend on things like these then they are being given too much money in the first place.0 -
There are other reasons besides VAT to need paperwork.why would you need a VAT receipt?
No, but if a fraction of the millions of unemployed go out with (metaphorical) buckets and sponges, they'll soon enough come to be seen as a problem that needs to be sorted.The black economy is seemingly rife and an absolute obstacle to anyone going into business in your world.
I think he had capital.Perhaps you should have warned that Richard Branson before he made the foolish error of going into all this business lark.
It hasn't been shown that redistribution puts a strain on the economy at all. It just takes the money that people "earn" (whatever that means) and says, let's share this out a different way. This upsets people, but doesn't necessarily harm the economy at all.Remember that the point of all of this, is the huge drain the benefits system places on our economy.
Milibland was wrong. It's not only Cameron who believes that the poor work harder if you make them poorer, but the rich work harder if you make them richer. Lots of other people think so too."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
It's fine having some vision of a leaner more efficient benefit system; one which espouses good moral values surrounding work ethic.
The difficulty is one of implementation. Already DWP have stated that they are 'relying' on HMRC for efficiently implementing changes already planned in the pipeline. Trouble is these changes prove difficult and expensive, and people find ways of working the new system.0
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