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Solar energy - Feed-in Tariff payment delays - your experiences?

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  • orrery
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    Reading submitted 2nd September, payment received 25th September.

    23 days - much worse than recent performances from EDF.

    I suppose that just over 3 weeks is "acceptable".
    4kWp, Panels: 16 Hyundai HIS250MG, Inverter: SMA Sunny Boy 4000TLLocation: Bedford, Roof: South East facing, 20 degree pitch20kWh Pylontech US5000 batteries, Lux AC inverter,Skoda Enyaq iV80, TADO Central Heating control
  • EDF have the 90 day payment terms in the contract to fall back on whenever they want to delay (although I think it would cause a storm of protest if they took that long and I'm not sure it's even legal to have such a long term). They've been so good recently too. I've just submitted my latest reading so we'll see when that is paid.
  • orrery
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    Yorksport wrote: »
    EDF have the 90 day payment terms in the contract to fall back on whenever they want to delay (although I think it would cause a storm of protest if they took that long....

    Precisely. In fact, it is 90 days after the month end and they ask you to submit early in the month. If you submit on the 1st, then it could be 120 days to payment which is outrageous.

    Can you imagine what they'd say if you took 120 days to pay your electric bill?
    4kWp, Panels: 16 Hyundai HIS250MG, Inverter: SMA Sunny Boy 4000TLLocation: Bedford, Roof: South East facing, 20 degree pitch20kWh Pylontech US5000 batteries, Lux AC inverter,Skoda Enyaq iV80, TADO Central Heating control
  • zeupater
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    Hi All

    This is a pretty interesting point to debate. Effectively the FiT payments are made as a result of a contract to supply with payments being made and accounted for as purchases. In order to simplify the scheme's administration, invoices are raised on a 'self-billing' basis by the energy companies (which is common in many other industry sectors - automotive etc), therefore I see no reason why 'FiT scheme' suppliers should be treated any differently to any other supplier, effectively bringing protections which are available to any Large to Small business relationships into play.

    Okay, having set the scene, I see no reason why the following, and related legislation regarding supply contracts, wouldn't be considered as being relevant .... https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/138129/bis-13-705-a-users-guide-to-the-recast-late-payment-directive.pdf ....

    HTH
    Z
    "We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then is not an act, but a habit. " ...... Aristotle
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  • Nikki
    Nikki Posts: 775 Forumite
    orrery wrote: »
    Reading submitted 2nd September, payment received 25th September.

    23 days - much worse than recent performances from EDF.

    I suppose that just over 3 weeks is "acceptable".

    same for us, but this is our first FIT payment. I suppose the time it takes to pay will fluctuate depending on their mood! Funny because I submitted my other meter reading on the same day - that was sorted out (payments reduced as we are in credit by quite a bit) in 24 hours!!
  • John_Pierpoint
    John_Pierpoint Posts: 8,401 Forumite
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    edited 27 September 2013 at 9:05AM
    zeupater wrote: »
    Hi All

    This is a pretty interesting point to debate. Effectively the FiT payments are made as a result of a contract to supply with payments being made and accounted for as purchases. In order to simplify the scheme's administration, invoices are raised on a 'self-billing' basis by the energy companies (which is common in many other industry sectors - automotive etc), therefore I see no reason why 'FiT scheme' suppliers should be treated any differently to any other supplier, effectively bringing protections which are available to any Large to Small business relationships into play.

    Okay, having set the scene, I see no reason why the following, and related legislation regarding supply contracts, wouldn't be considered as being relevant .... https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/138129/bis-13-705-a-users-guide-to-the-recast-late-payment-directive.pdf ....

    HTH
    Z

    Perhaps we should demand "right of offset";):D

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set-off_%28law%29
  • Martyn1981
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    orrery wrote: »
    Reading submitted 2nd September, payment received 25th September.

    23 days - much worse than recent performances from EDF.

    I suppose that just over 3 weeks is "acceptable".

    Hiya, payment on mine received this morning, with the claim submitted on the 23rd in the evening.

    Not sure why they would deal with claims so differently, let's hope they were just having a bad start to the month.

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • orrery
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    Martyn1981 wrote: »
    Hiya, payment on mine received this morning, with the claim submitted on the 23rd in the evening.
    Not sure why they would deal with claims so differently, let's hope they were just having a bad start to the month.Mart.

    Probably a big rush of claims on the 1st when the "It's time to submit your reading!" mails go out.
    4kWp, Panels: 16 Hyundai HIS250MG, Inverter: SMA Sunny Boy 4000TLLocation: Bedford, Roof: South East facing, 20 degree pitch20kWh Pylontech US5000 batteries, Lux AC inverter,Skoda Enyaq iV80, TADO Central Heating control
  • EricMears
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    Finally received the payment I claimed on 15th August today :beer:

    SP are now claiming that their 'standard conditions' require them to pay out at the end of the month after the month in which claim is received. That's in spite of me having had an email nearly every quarter for the last two years telling me that payment would be made within 28days of claim and of course in spite of six of the eight payments being made within a fortnight !

    Until now I've been scrupulously claiming on the 15th of each month and ignoring SP suggestions that I should be claiming a day or two earlier each time. Their latest suggestion was that I ought to claim again on 10th November but I've pretty well decided that if they're not going to pay me till 31st December I might as well delay my claim until 28th. November which ought to guarantee a 4 weeks and 3 days payment under the alleged new rules.
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  • KevinG
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    EricMears wrote: »
    SP are now claiming that their 'standard conditions' require them to pay out at the end of the month after the month in which claim is received.
    Sounds like they are making it up as they go along. My claim goes in to SP tonight and I shall be jolly unhappy if it takes over a month to come through.
    2kWp Solar PV - 10*200W Kioto, SMA Sunny Boy 2000HF, SSE facing, some shading in winter, 37° pitch, installed Jun-2011, inverter replaced Sep-2017 AND Feb-2022.
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