At What Age Did You Move Out Of Mummy And Daddys?

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Jimmy_31 wrote: »

Its a basic human right to have shelter so if somebody cant afford a shelter then i cant see anything wrong with them claiming some land and building their own shelter.

How about abolishing the planning laws in the following circumstances:

1) you must own the land you want to build on
2) you can build anything you like as long as you do it yourself ?

I believe this has actually been tried in some countries - Holland I think.

Jimmy_31

Clifford_Pope wrote: »

How about abolishing the planning laws in the following circumstances:

1) you must own the land you want to build on
2) you can build anything you like as long as you do it yourself ?

I believe this has actually been tried in some countries - Holland I think.

I would own the land i built on, i would have claimed it to be mine.

I cant see how people should have to buy land from a council or whoever because if shelter is a basic human right then the shelter the land is built on must also be a basic human right.

I would gladly build my own home as i could quite easily build a detached house for way under 50k.

sugarwalsh

18-25

I moved out at 18. My parents then rented my room out, so no going back....

Megan

ukcarper

18-25

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

This is what a few people i know are asking, if you cant earn enough to buy a home or rent one then what are you supposed to do.

I cant see people grafting week in week out for the rest of their lives just to pay the basic bills and renting a bedsit, if this happened to me i think i would just drop out of society and build a little house using my house deposit and tell the council to fcuk off when they come and told me to knock it down.

Its a basic human right to have shelter so if somebody cant afford a shelter then i cant see anything wrong with them claiming some land and building their own shelter.

Thats how people became land owners in the first place.

But you seem to think that is a new thing there have been times in the past when property prices have been as high as they are now. People earning minimum wage have always found it hard to find somewhere to live unless they are lucky enough to get social housing. Your problem is that you are in one of the worst affected industries in one of the worst affected parts of the country.

Pee

18-25

I left home - sort of - at 18 to go to University and properly aged 23. My mum is still very upset that I broke up their family and that I am not living there now (over 35).

When I moved out I was earning £8,000 a year and paying £350 p.m. rent. Yes, it was very hard, but the freedom meant everything to me.

Jimmy_31

ukcarper wrote: »

But you seem to think that is a new thing there have been times in the past when property prices have been as high as they are now. People earning minimum wage have always found it hard to find somewhere to live unless they are lucky enough to get social housing. Your problem is that you are in one of the worst affected industries in one of the worst affected parts of the country.

Its not just happening to people on minimum wage, lots of trades in the building game are experiencing it as well due to lack of work.

ukcarper

18-25

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

Its not just happening to people on minimum wage, lots of trades in the building game are experiencing it as well due to lack of work.

That’s what I’m saying it’s not the property price per say it’s the fact that their income has dropped plenty of builders still doing ok down south. My mum is in social housing and has just had boiler replaced we are in the Southeast and the lads who did it came from Newcastle.

Jimmy_31

ukcarper wrote: »

That’s what I’m saying it’s not the property price per say it’s the fact that their income has dropped plenty of builders still doing ok down south. My mum is in social housing and has just had boiler replaced we are in the Southeast and the lads who did it came from Newcastle.

It is all to do with the property price, if the boom hadnt have happened then most skilled tradesmen could still house themselves on a crap wage.

Lots of people are still earning the same wage as they were ten years ago but house prices have jumped in price.

I work away from home myself off and on because thats the only way i can up my wage

reweird

18-25

Shelter is a human right but owning your own home isn't. As stated many many times prior, a man on a minimum wage can afford to rent a bed-sit. If only they have the self-respect and balls to stand on their own to feet independently.

ukcarper

18-25

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

It is all to do with the property price, if the boom hadnt have happened then most skilled tradesmen could still house themselves on a crap wage.

Lots of people are still earning the same wage as they were ten years ago but house prices have jumped in price.

I work away from home myself off and on because thats the only way i can up my wage

If property were to fall to the long-term average it would need to fall about 20% you say a 1 bed flat would cost £400 a month so it would fall to £320 a month are you saying if that happened people would be able to rent.

The median pay for a full time person in Oldham was £21.5k that’s a take home of £1400 a month so someone earning that would be able to afford £400 a month rent. The problem for people in the building trade seems to be that they can’t earn enough now.