Rosie Millard isn't old style (did we guess this already?)

Penelope_Penguin

newMS wrote:

thank you for that Penelope..... now where did i leave my whittling kit ? :rolleyes:

You may scoff When the chemistry labs were removed from FIL's school, he nabbed the benches which were made from solid teak. He made the most beautiful coffee table. DH had some and made a fire surround. I used some of the rest and made

And Martin, if you're reading, I am prepared to negotiate on the rights of this pic for the coffee table edition of the book :rotfl: :rotfl:

Penny. x

cathybird

nickyhutch wrote:

Come on, people, it's her choice, just as being OS is yours. If hse wants to use Clarins, then let her. OS isn't for everyone, is it? You're slagging her off for slagging you off! Two wrongs don't make a right!

hi nickyhutch, she has a perfect right to express her opinion, it's true: and people who disagree with her have a perfect right to express their opinion too. The course of action you seem to be recommending is to simply ignore what you don't agree with, yet I don't see you doing that. I'd say it's quite a serious issue if a journalist offers a flippant and denigrating review of a book that could help the multitude of people in consumer debt these days. The very last thing anyone on MSE should do is just let it be.

And yes, she can use Clarins if she wants to, but the point of her column is that she's trying to pay off a massive amount of debt, yet she doesn't come across to me as having quite taken in that it was her extravagent shopping habits that caused the damage in the first place. What's wrong with pointing this out?

The word "slagging" implies gratuitous criticism that has no real truth to it and that's done for the sake of being mean, rather than criticism that's based on genuine and honest assessment. I don't agree with you that people on this forum are merely "slagging". If they're reacting angrily to her column, they have a reason for it, which is that her analysis of the principles they/we live by doesn't come across as adequately thought out.

Phew!!!!!

cathybird

nickyhutch wrote:

Maybe because she has to? It's her job. Reading books that you think you have no interest in is good for you - expanding horizons, changing opinions, seeing other people's point of view and all that. Didn't work for her in this case, but you can't go through life never looking at things you don't understand or don't intrest you, or you'll get bored pretty quickly.

Yes she has large debts, but it seems she has a good income and homes abroad, so may not in fact be struggling with them, which makes a difference. If you have debts of £40K but an income/capital of squillions, it's entirely different to people on here for help because theie debts are £40K and their income is, say, 15.

hi nickyhutch - she is struggling with them. It's the point of her column!!

apprentice_tycoon

I don't mind that Rosie Millard doesn't like all of the OS ideas, that's OK (she does a few OS thinks like veggie growing & shopping at Lidl and Martin did a money makeover for her on the Trevor Lewis prgramme a while back) but getting the facts wrong, as a journalist, is a crime - she ridiculed the wood off cuts idea and got it wrong, that's not OK.

Lets not forget that Martin is raising money for charity with this book and she is giving out duff information, maybe there will be fewer books sold because of her mocking...

As I posted in the DFW thread Janey Lee Grace from the Steve Wright show would love our book and if the publishers haven't sent one to her they should, she gets OS! the show mentions products from time to time, not reviews as such but conversationally and having listened to her ideas on being green, organics, recyling, charity shop chic etc she's one of us, maybe she doesn't know it yet but she is, and she'd put a good word in for the book, no doubt about it

nickyhutch

OK Cathy, point taken, up to a point. It just seemed to me that every single one of you on here were jumping up, really defensively, and having a go at her for daring to have a go. And some of the things she's been called - overrated, crap, stupid bint, narrow-minded - DO smack to me of "slagging". Sorry for using the vernacular, if it offends.

I'm not saying ignore, just see that she has an opinion. And I'll be honest, the lengths some people go to, when they don't NEED to, stagger me.

cathybird

nickyhutch wrote:

OK Cathy, point taken, up to a point. It just seemed to me that every single one of you on here were jumping up, really defensively, and having a go at her for daring to have a go. And some of the things she's been called DO smack to me of "slagging". Sorry for using the vernacular, if it offends.

I'm not saying ignore, just see that she has an opinion. And I'll be honest, the lengths some people go to, when they don't NEED to, stagger me.

hi nickyhutch, thanks for that. The word "slagging" doesn't offend at all!! And it's true that if people get angry they can tend to take cheap shots in the heat of their anger.

I do see that she has an opinion. I said on the other thread that I read her column every week. It's quite entertaining, if you're asking me, and I'm also sure that the "I'm ditzy, I don't understand money, me!!" attitude she takes is partly put on. She's deliberately flippant, which is OK with me, and she can be quite funny, and sometimes she offers useful information, too. Just in this case I think her review of the book really isn't terribly useful or insightful, nor has she really tried to be. If ya want my opinion, that's it!!

culpepper

What ms Millard is missing is the point of the book.
Penny and Penny,laid up,make many.
She may be excited in her £1000 saving on her car insurance but how many thousands do we save by our OS ways?
I know my own savings from last year were over £2000 and I dont earn a penny from outside the home.
Add to that the larger savings which she is so happy to make and her debt would be shrinking so much more quickly.
She needs to swallow her multisyllabled words and go smell the vinegar.

Ellie2758

I recall previous articles by Ms Millard in one of the Times saturday supplements, in which she CLAIMED to be in massive debt and was trying to cut back. She then went on some ludicrously expensive holiday with her 4 children. Clarins hand cream doesnt come into it. She's in another world and therefore isnt a suitable person to be reviewing such a book, IMHO.

vivaladiva

Definitely not in a DFW/OS type world, when in massive debt she can afford to run a car on which she can save £1000 on the insurance. (Mines 300 quid pa). Not really the right type of person to be reviewing an OS book.

nickyhutch

Who is the right type of person, though? I suspect most contributors to this board would want it to be someone who embraces the OS way of life wholeheartedly and without question, advocating that it become recommended reading for all GSCE English courses, and included in every political party's manifesto. You're so hooked on this lifestlye, some of you, you're almost evangelical!


Re-reading that, I sound too critical, I'm sorry. At work and rushing.