ESA Tests and Mental Health

Fridge3

cosmic-dust wrote: »

Your posts that I quoted are relevant and are in no way used to cause an argument, you can't see that.

Yes, they all appeared to have the posters name with the little blue arrow after it, pointing to a direct quote of that poster, each of which was giving the atos newbie the hurry up even though it's clear they aren't online.

Fridge3

Transformer wrote: »

Meant I have not refered to atos kills.

This thread has become exhausting. In fact I bet the assesment woudl cause less stress !!!!!!!!!!:p

I haven't said you did.

You implied that here when you asked "where have we refered to atos kills on this thread"

Fridge3

cosmic-dust wrote: »

Why?
Is it a requiremnet to post on MSE with kid gloves?

Some do indeed choose to post their ailments with the expectation that those ailments should act as some kind of shield to the truth or facts.

Fridge3

Transformer wrote: »

But rudeness and attacking seems the norm lately especially on this thread if you are on benefits or deemed to dare to question an authority relating to entitlement to that.

Especially if you are sick, as we are supposed to according to you tonight to not take that in and not fear the medicals that even mental health charity has concerns re.

Benefit bashers must love it when those with family on benefits attack others when not even ilegally doing anything wrong.

I only asked for reasurance on this forum tonight and got labelled and extremist, sick.

You appear to be mistaking rudeness with pointing out the facts.

watsinaname

helenbolland wrote: »

Hi,


Has anyone else got experience f claiming ESA with mental health problems or can provide me with some advice.

Thanks

Firstly , having read the whole thread i don't want to get involved in the argument re: ATOS. I can only give you my experiences and therefore my own advice.

It would seem that having Mental Health problems will make it harder to make a claim for ESA. There are those who have sailed through it with no problems but the way i see it , there seems an awful lot that don't. My 1st piece of advice would be expect the worse.

If you are asked to go to an assesment centre try and go unless you can have someone with you during the time you are with the Atos representative.

My own experience. I was unable to travel to the assesment so completed the form for a home visit, this was supported by my GP. I don't remember now but Atos has a period of time in which they have to carry out their assesment. I got a phone call on a sunday morning. It was a male voice saying he was a doctor and that he had to do a medical. He wanted to come in 10 mins. Obviously i refused as i had had no notification of any appointment etc. The Doctor became very assertive insisiting that he had to come. I agreed as i felt intimatidated by him. I have to admit i was shaken by the phone call but agreed he could come at 4pm. He arrived, wife in the car as they had had a day out ( so he said). He came in, didn't tell me his name , didn't say he was from Atos and to this day i dont even know if he was a real doctor. Because of my condition i find it hard to communicate when under stress/anxiety. So like a lemon i just sat there. He asked a few questions ( how much rent i paid, what was my house worth, why dont i buy it) while having this conversation he was writing , what i dont know. The only medical thing he did ask was the medication i was on. He left after about 5 mins. I dont remember if i signed anything as it was all a blur by then.

2nd piece of advice. As some posters have said , record or have a witness.

I failed the medical and was told to claim JSA. JSA refused me as i had health problems. Work that one out!

3 rd piece of advice. Make sure you appeal. I got support from my GP but even he told me that Atos don't take any notice of his opinion or a phychatrist, as the other patients had had the same problem. GP told me to accept that i might not be able to claim ESA.

Tribunal. I attend the tribunal with a support worker.

4th piece of advice. Never go on your own, use CAB or support service. Tribunal was worse than the medical. Solicitor and doctor on the panel. Again not really able to speak but they were patient in waiting for answers and the support worker helped. The Solicitor made a remark , you've been suffering from this for the last 10 yrs. I gave my answers in a medical way and because the solicitor didn't know what the hell i was on about got a bit arsey with me. The doctor understood though . I took that as having a go at me and completely broke down. That scared the crap out of him :rotfl:
I was awarded ESA.

I am due for a renewal and making myself ill over it. I know im deteriorating and have been more so this last week. I can understand why people think that doing something silly is better than going throught the hassle and humiliation of applying for ESA, its sole distroying. I used to claim DLA but because of my experiences of ESA i have let my claim lapse and wont be claiming it again....i cant face it.

Again this is only my experience and others may tell you they got on fine no problems, awarded ESA. The advice again, comes from my own experience. Good luck with your claim and i hope you are sucessful without any hassle.

Sorry if i have bored you all with my ramblings.

Fridge3

Transformer wrote: »

Since when has two posters been a witch hunt especially when none of my postings have been rude or aggressive to atos?

Oh, right, it's ok to be rude just as long as it's to other posters?

Transformer wrote: »

Go and kiss your nether eye:money:

cit_k

cosmic-dust wrote: »

You carry on as you are doing and I think it won't be very long before we see PPR under your username.

24/7 :think: nope no idea mate :cool:

In that case, would it not be better to try to stay on topic?
Instead of talking about things you dont understand?

cit_k

cosmic-dust wrote: »

Everyone is free to post their opinions, but I objected to the witch hunt and the bully boy tactics that are being used within this thread and the other threads that are up and running.

So please, stay on topic yourself then, and stop adding to the problem.

cit_k

[quote=[Deleted User];47226255]Hypocrite![/QUOTE]

Are you unable to stay on topic, and unable to refrain from insulting other posters on a regular basis?
Nothing is hypocritical about what I said btw.

Fridge3

cit_k wrote: »

Are you unable to stay on topic, and unable to refrain from insulting other posters on a regular basis?
Nothing is hypocritical about what I said btw.

Yes you place people on iggy to avoid answering the points and questions raised.