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ESA Tests and Mental Health

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  • Should call you three the atos trio, dashing heros ready to jump on anyone worried about atos due to perhaps their ONE good experience, to ridicule them cut them down and make them feel like sh** for just worrying.

    Hey carry on and perhaps a the numbers will have decreased :(

    You cannot answer how they treat the mentally ill, if you can and know what they asked and how they respected that then fine to reasure, but you do not answer what I hoped to get from the atos rep. So let them answer unless you think your one positive experience can answer for all ;)

    My husband claims incapacity benefit for depression and anxiety. I'm not sure whether itis ATOS who have undertaken his medicals, but each time , although he has been very anxious about it, he has seen the need for a medical and has felt that it has been undertaken in a fair manner.

    I've tried to help you, I don't quite understand why you are being A£$ey with me!
    (AKA HRH_MUngo)
    Member #10 of £2 savers club
    Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology: Terry Eagleton
  • cit_k wrote: »
    But you are willing to discount what people with direct experience of ATOS state - and willing to defend atos.

    Does that not amount to the same thing in many people's eyes?

    I don't see why it should. Have I also to discount the vast majority who have medicals with absolutely no problem at all?

    I'm sorry some people have problems and if the medical has been carried out incorrectly, then I hope the situation is remedied without too much hassle. But it doesn't mean that every ATOS decision is flawed or that all the assessors are a bunch of crooks!
    (AKA HRH_MUngo)
    Member #10 of £2 savers club
    Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology: Terry Eagleton
  • We asked for a reply from atos rep.
    You have demanded a reply from the ATOS rep several times and within several threads, and because the ATOS rep hasn't jumped when you have shouted you have taken the hump.
    I made a mistake once, believeing people on the internet were my virtual friends. It won't be a mistake that I make again!
  • [QUOTE=Oldernotwiser;47222905]I was standing up for another MSE member - a new one at that.

    (Congratulations on your wit and originality by the way.)[/QUOTE]

    So was I - that is what we are asked to do.

    You will notice the ATOS representative posted TWO posts, gota load of flack and has not returned. :(
    (AKA HRH_MUngo)
    Member #10 of £2 savers club
    Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology: Terry Eagleton
  • cit_k
    cit_k Posts: 24,812 Forumite
    My husband claims incapacity benefit for depression and anxiety. I'm not sure whether itis ATOS who have undertaken his medicals, but each time , although he has been very anxious about it, he has seen the need for a medical and has felt that it has been undertaken in a fair manner.

    I've tried to help you, I don't quite understand why you are being A£$ey with me!

    And he wont have been offered a copy of the report before it was sent to the DWP. So the doctor will have breached GMC rules.

    Also, have you yet requested a copy of the medical report, even if the assessment was a success, you may be suprised if you read the report, it is likely to be appalling quality.
    [greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
    [/greenhighlight][redtitle]
    The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
    and we should be deeply worried about that
    [/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)
  • cit_k
    cit_k Posts: 24,812 Forumite
    Quiet ironic that. Since you were probably one of the first posters to take the thread off track, and continue to bully the ATOS rep into replying.
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=47122769&postcount=9


    The ATOS PR-REP (PUBLIC RELATIONS REPRESENTATIVE) is paid to reply.

    Asking someone to reply, to do their JOB, is hardly a problem for most is it?
    [greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
    [/greenhighlight][redtitle]
    The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
    and we should be deeply worried about that
    [/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)
  • There is always tommorow and I do not have the hump with atos, more dissapointment, they have given me no reason to have the hump.

    Some posters tonight however I cannot say the same ;)

    Dissapointment in that they must have asked to be official rep, they must be keeping eye on this board at some point this week, so I am happy to give them time to get informed replies even if it is a general reply as understand cannot be individual.
    Just because MSE has given them official status doesn't mean they have to be here 24/7. The ATOS rep has a job to do, the rep could have a family to look after, the rep could have a hundred and one things to do and not have time to jump onto MSE as much as some other posters do ;)

    You cannot expect a forum of this size to have every single poster agree with you, you do not like that myself and a few other posters don't agree with the witch hunt or the bully boy tactics and that we have voiced our opinion on this.
    I made a mistake once, believeing people on the internet were my virtual friends. It won't be a mistake that I make again!
  • cit_k
    cit_k Posts: 24,812 Forumite
    I don't see why it should. Have I also to discount the vast majority who have medicals with absolutely no problem at all?

    I'm sorry some people have problems and if the medical has been carried out incorrectly, then I hope the situation is remedied without too much hassle. But it doesn't mean that every ATOS decision is flawed or that all the assessors are a bunch of crooks!

    Every single assessment by one of their doctors for ESA or IB is in breach of GMC guidance (or ATOS's own rules). Thats a fact...

    One you can confirm, as your husband wont have been offered a copy of the medical report, as they SHOULD HAVE been (by GMC rules) before it is sent to the decision maker.

    A assessor, is meant to abide by all gmc rules.

    Failing to do so, means they are lying that they are within the legislation (legislation requires membership of the GMC/GMC requires rules be followed at all times).
    [greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
    [/greenhighlight][redtitle]
    The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
    and we should be deeply worried about that
    [/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)
  • cit_k
    cit_k Posts: 24,812 Forumite
    Just because MSE has given them official status doesn't mean they have to be here 24/7. The ATOS rep has a job to do, the rep could have a family to look after, the rep could have a hundred and one things to do and not have time to jump onto MSE as much as some other posters do ;)

    You cannot expect a forum of this size to have every single poster agree with you, you do not like that myself and a few other posters don't agree with the witch hunt or the bully boy tactics and that we have voiced our opinion on this.


    It would be a rather foolish company that assigned a PR rep to a very public forum, and then did not ensure the pr rep did their job, and was available on a fairly regular basis, certainly at least in the first few days.
    [greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
    [/greenhighlight][redtitle]
    The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
    and we should be deeply worried about that
    [/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)
  • cit_k wrote: »
    The ATOS PR-REP (PUBLIC RELATIONS REPRESENTATIVE) is paid to reply.

    Asking someone to reply, to do their JOB, is hardly a problem for most is it?
    You're assuming that the rep is getting paid. The rep might be posting on MSE in their free time, like you and I.
    I made a mistake once, believeing people on the internet were my virtual friends. It won't be a mistake that I make again!
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