Wasting water........

BackOnTrack

Strider590 wrote: »

Energy + water = vaporised water, (or clouds)

You can convert, but you cannot truly destroy.
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Actually even without electrolysis it is still each to "destroy" water. Add a lump of sodium to some water and you get

2Na + 2H20 -> 2NaOH + H2

Wheres the water gone? According to you it still exists so where's it hiding?

Gothicfairy

but when we talk water are we talking safe clean drinking water ? cos I doubt it. That is a different matter all together.

Strider590

BackOnTrack wrote: »

Exactly how is encouraging efficient use of water going to make corporations rich? If consumption drop there is less capital expenditure and the opportunity for water companies to increase profit drops.

Directly? It doesn't....

Long term? it get's people into that frame of mind that leads to increased consumerism of "eco" products. We've been fed this stuff for decades and now the big corporations are cashing in.

I mean buying new cars to save the planet, f*cking genius idea.
How about we stop raping the planet of it's non-renewable resources instead?

How about making stuff last longer? Oh but there's not so much profit in that.....

BackOnTrack

Strider590 wrote: »

How about we stop raping the planet of it's non-renewable resources instead?

What things like coal, oil, gas?

Things that are used to create energy? Do you know how much energy it takes to treat and pump water? Yet because water itself is renewable you don't think that letting it going straight back to the sewer isn't wasting it? It's is people like you that are raping the planet of its non-renewable resources because you can't seem to appreciate exactly what it takes to produce and supply billions litres of clean safe water every day to London alone every day.

Strider590

BackOnTrack wrote: »

What things like coal, oil, gas?

Things that are used to create energy? Do you know how much energy it takes to treat and pump water? Yet because water itself is renewable you don't think that letting it going straight back to the sewer isn't wasting it? It's is people like you that are raping the planet of its non-renewable resources because you can't seem to appreciate exactly what it takes to produce and supply billions litres of clean safe water every day to London alone every day.

Whilst tap water might be "safe", it's far from clean. Water is a naturally occurring solvent which picks up all sorts of impurities along the way to your home.

Mains water leak down the road, spewing out a 4ft high fountain of water for over 3 weeks. If it was THAT costly, it would have been fixed.... But apparently it's ok, I guess it doesn't matter because it's not going down the drain or toilet.

Focusing on the wrong things, this is what's damaging the planet and I could bring up countless issues where this is the case, but im trying not to throw this off-topic for as much as the subject begins to demand it.

There's saving the planet and there's using fear tactics to convince the population to spend more money. Environmental issues have been hyjacked for money making purposes. It's time to stop reading the Daily Fail and start using our brains.




Here's an example (none water related)

At work, the "manager of nobody" has this thing about saving energy and turning lights off, so without thinking or researching he's had occupancy sensors fitted to the lights inside the building (I have one of these sensors at home and I know they use more electricity than the lights he's trying to switch), we've spend £150 on having each sensor fitted and because they're fluorescent lights, they now die prematurely due to the 1-2 min switching cycles.

So due to his fear of wasting energy, we now use more energy AND send to landfill even more toxic waste in the form of fluorescent light tubes, which contain amongst other things the heavy metal mercury!!!!

It's this attitude which companies are profiting from!

BackOnTrack

Strider590 wrote: »

Whilst tap water might be "safe", it's far from clean. Water is a naturally occurring solvent which picks up all sorts of impurities along the way to your home.

Clean is a relative term.

Strider590 wrote: »

Mains water leak down the road, spewing out a 4ft high fountain of water for over 3 weeks. If it was THAT costly, it would have been fixed.... But apparently it's ok, I guess it doesn't matter because it's not going down the drain or toilet.

I don't actually believe this without seeing some evidence but leakage is a huge issue and one which needs more attention. Currently whats called a sustainable economic level of leakage is used to determine leakage levels where by the cost of reducing leakage is put against the cost of supplying more water to compensate that lost to leakage.

Anyway your point here seems to be that because some water is wasted that people shouldn't even try and use water efficiently. This really is a rediculous stance.

Strider590 wrote: »

Focusing on the wrong things, this is what's damaging the planet and I could bring up countless issues where this is the case, but im trying not to throw this off-topic for as much as the subject begins to demand it.

There's saving the planet and there's using fear tactics to convince the population to spend more money. Environmental issues have been hyjacked for money making purposes. It's time to stop reading the Daily Fail and start using our brains.




Here's an example (none water related)

At work, the "manager of nobody" has this thing about saving energy and turning lights off, so without thinking or researching he's had occupancy sensors fitted to the lights inside the building (I have one of these sensors at home and I know they use more electricity than the lights he's trying to switch), we've spend £150 on having each sensor fitted and because they're fluorescent lights, they now die prematurely due to the 1-2 min switching cycles.

So due to his fear of wasting energy, we now use more energy AND send to landfill even more toxic waste in the form of fluorescent light tubes, which contain amongst other things the heavy metal mercury!!!!

It's this attitude which companies are profiting from!

I don't necessarily disagree with this but not trying to use water efficiently is stupid. The only thing it requires is a bit of effort on behalf of the individual, it doesn't line anyones pocket. I don't buy into the green agenda but certain things do make sense insulation in houses makes sense, turning lights off where they are not being used (I'm not talking about sensors here just using your finger and using water efficiently makes sense. Hundreds of millions of litres of water are wasted by doing what you have described in your first post. Your argument that people shouldn't try to use water efficiently as it promotes an attitude that companies profit from is rediculous.