Wasting water........

Strider590

Hi,

Can anyone tell me, are they still pumping water into space?

Would just like to know, as apparently I waste water by leaving the tap running to rinse things when washing up, brush my teeth or wash my car.

I assumed they must be pumping it out into space after it's gone down the drain, perhaps to compensate for the melting polar ice caps?



Ok, yes im taking the p1ss

Where do people get these stupid ideas? How do you waste something that makes up 71% of the planet and is surrounded by the vacuum of space?

Cardew

You can buy a coconut for one penny on a Pacific island - it costs a lot more to have it delivered to your house by Harrods.

Every litre of water delivered to your house, and taken away by the sewer, is treated to ensure that the function of 'taking the p1ss ' has been correctly performed!

vax2002

You have to understand that a good percentage are too but stupid to understand the term, infinite source

Strider590

I may have a stalker :eek:

Gothicfairy

vax2002 wrote: »

You have to understand that a good percentage are too but stupid to understand the term, infinite source

Because of course clean safe drinking water falls from the sky and the oceans are full of the stuff..
I guess you also think the earth will last forever and that global warming is a lie put out by the oil companies.

torbrex

It is not so much the water that is wasted, its the fact that anything that goes down a drain gets processed and that is where the waste comes in. Even clean fresh water that is a result of a tap left running has then to be processed as waste, it does not dilute whatever is already there, it just adds to the quantity.

Strider590

Whilst I appreciate there are processing costs, the fact remains that you cannot waste an infinite resource AND when people say "wasting water" they genuinely believe that the world is somehow running out of the stuff. They're paranoid, just as other folks are paranoid about saving the planet by not using water or following people around turning lights of behind them or buying new cars that produce less plant food (CO2).

Fill a jar with water, close the lid and try "wasting" it without opening/breaking the jar. You can heat it, cool it, shake it, do whatever you like, but it's not going anywhere, molecules are molecules and they're stuck inside that jar. Water has always been here, CO2 has always been here and the quantities of the base molecules can never and will never change, short of anything entering the atmosphere from outer space, it's scientifically impossible.

I say it's an old school precursor to the modern global warming scam, make people believe there's a problem and offer to "help" by increasing the price......

It happens almost every year with the petrol prices, media starts a nationwide "fuel shortage" panic, the prices shoot up and never come back down.

What I think gets me is how many apparently "intelligent" people fall for all this non-sense without so much as questioning the source.

Anyway, mini rant caused by annoying pillock at work, now over

Cardew

Semantics Rule OK

BackOnTrack

Strider590 wrote: »

Whilst I appreciate there are processing costs, the fact remains that you cannot waste an infinite resource

Water is very much finite. We are not going to run out of it but it is still very much finite. Given enough energy you could destroy all the water.

Strider590 wrote: »

Fill a jar with water, close the lid and try "wasting" it without opening/breaking the jar. You can heat it, cool it, shake it, do whatever you like, but it's not going anywhere, molecules are molecules and they're stuck inside that jar.

You miss the point. If you put the water into a jar which already contains something which makes the water non-potable then you have wasted the water. It was clean and suitable for consumption and now no longer this. You have not destroyed the water but you have wasted it. Leaving taps when not needed does waste water.

Strider590 wrote: »

Water has always been here, CO2 has always been here and the quantities of the base molecules can never and will never change, short of anything entering the atmosphere from outer space, it's scientifically impossible.

Wow you really don't understand the science do you. What exactly do you think happens with CO2 and oxygen in both plants and humans. The number of base molecules very much do change. Electrolysis can be used to produce H2 and O2 gases from water which very much changes the number of base molecules. Also the base number of atoms also very much changes both alpha and beta radiation causes atom to change from one type to another. Carbon 14 for example undergoes beta decay and changes to nitrogen.

Strider590 wrote: »

I say it's an old school precursor to the modern global warming scam, make people believe there's a problem and offer to "help" by increasing the price......

The price of water has nothing to do with its availability its primarily the capital cost associated with the infrastructure required to supply and treat the water and the ongoing costs associated with running this. By using water efficiently you decrease demand and the need for expensive capital programmes to meet demand.

Strider590 wrote: »

It happens almost every year with the petrol prices, media starts a nationwide "fuel shortage" panic, the prices shoot up and never come back down.

What I think gets me is how many apparently "intelligent" people fall for all this non-sense without so much as questioning the source.

Anyway, mini rant caused by annoying pillock at work, now over

What gets me is people thinking thinking they actually know more than others when there ill informed rantings obviously show they haven't a clue.

Anyway mini rant caused by annoying pillock on MSE forum, now over

Strider590

BackOnTrack wrote: »

Water is very much finite. We are not going to run out of it but it is still very much finite. Given enough energy you could destroy all the water.

Energy + water = vaporised water, (or clouds)

You can convert, but you cannot truly destroy.
Any application of energy to water will have the same effect, we're not running out of water and THIS is the point that really gets my goat when people start on this whole "wasting water" non-sense.

Price of water? I didn't realise they struggle to make profit! poor sods...

We're having the wool pulled over our eye's (just as with "global warming"), purely so that big corporations can make crazy profits.

200 years ago it was religion, but the new form of control is the environment and it's all orchestrated via the media.

My (and your) planet is being destroyed by the very people who claim to be saving it and they are doing it by the influence of false propaganda.

BackOnTrack

Strider590 wrote: »

Energy + water = vaporised water, (or clouds)

You can convert, but you cannot truly destroy.
Any application of energy to water will have the same effect

really do your research before making silly statements like this. I do have a couple of degrees in chemsitry but even a high school student should know this stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water

it's scientifically impossible.

:rotfl:

Strider590 wrote: »

we're not running out of water

No we are not runnign out of water but most of the water is non potable and we certainly have an energy shortage. if we had a technology like nuclear fusion we could produce so much cheap water that no one in the world would ever have to worry about it. But we don't and thats why certain parts of the world suffer from water shortages.

You might want to take a look at what high levels of abstraction also do to the ecology of rivers.

Also there are very real possibilities of water shortages in the UK. Most of the UK is very susceptible to a dry winter followed by a hot spring. No we're not running out of water but there is every possibility short term local shortages.

Strider590 wrote: »

and THIS is the point that really gets my goat when people start on this whole "wasting water" non-sense.

Try getting away from your blinkered definition of "wasting". Letting treated water go directly to the sewer without being used is wasting water. There is a cost associated with the water supplied to your tap and the water returned to the sewer and guess who pays for this? Here's a clue it's not the water companies. By wasting water you are just putting your own prices up.

Strider590 wrote: »

Price of water? I didn't realise they struggle to make profit! poor sods...

Who said they were? Of course they aren't and the more demand for water there is the more infrastructure that is required to supply it and they make even more profit. By using water unecessarily you are helping water companies justify more capital schemes from which they can derive

Strider590 wrote: »

We're having the wool pulled over our eye's (just as with "global warming"), purely so that big corporations can make crazy profits.

Exactly how is encouraging efficient use of water going to make corporations rich? If consumption drop there is less capital expenditure and the opportunity for water companies to increase profit drops.

It is actually idiotic behaviour like yours that is making water companies richer.

Strider590 wrote: »

200 years ago it was religion, but the new form of control is the environment and it's all orchestrated via the media.

My (and your) planet is being destroyed by the very people who claim to be saving it and they are doing it by the influence of false propaganda.

Best put your tinfoil hat back on.