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  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    peachyprice wrote: »
    Why is it cheaper for the NHS if more women breastfeed?

    I don't think breastfed babies require any less medical treatment than bottle fed, plenty of BF babies still get reflux and colic and other usual baby 'illnesses'.

    Breastfed babies are significantly less likely to need medical treatment than bottle fed babies. that's an overall statistic, of course, and doesn't say anything about a particular infant.

    And as breastfeeding reduces the mother's risk of breast and ovarian cancer, high blood pressure, diabetes and heart disease, that's a very significant matter for the NHS.

    Results of this study support widely
    published findings that, when compared
    with formula-fed babies, infants
    receiving breast milk have lower rates
    and less severe episodes of the common
    illnesses studied.

    http://www.eatbettermovemore.org/SA/enact/workplace/documents/workplace.supportbreastfeeding.evidencebase.comparisonofmaternalabsenteeism.pdf


    As a group, breastfed babies have fewer infections and hospitalizations than formula-fed infants.

    http://kidshealth.org/parent/growth/feeding/breast_bottle_feeding.html#

    Breast-fed babies have fewer illnesses because human milk transfers to the infant a mother's antibodies to disease. About 80 percent of the cells in breast milk are macrophages, cells that kill bacteria, fungi and viruses. Breast-fed babies are protected, in varying degrees, from a number of illnesses, including pneumonia, botulism, bronchitis, staphylococcal infections, influenza, ear infections, and German measles. Furthermore, mothers produce antibodies to whatever disease is present in their environment, making their milk custom-designed to fight the diseases their babies are exposed to as well.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • Apricot
    Apricot Posts: 2,497 Forumite
    edited 6 August 2012 at 9:29PM
    Nicki wrote: »
    That's true but maybe then, using your argument, it should be available on prescription but only for mothers who can't breastfeed for medical reasons (either theirs or babies)? Mothers who would prefer not to, or who decide go give up because it is difficult in the first few weeks, can buy it from their child benefit at the normal price.

    I am fairly unsympathetic to complaints from FFers that milk is too expensive I am afraid, because in many cases it is just a way at taking another pop at breastfeeders. Rather than accepting that mik costs what it costs (ie is in line wih other food stuffs) some mothers like to portray themselves as victimized by the government/food manufacturers for their choice not to breast feed. The tax payer already pays most parents a subsidy to feed and clothe their children. Why should they pay an extra subsidy to a proportion of parents who want to formula feed? Would that not then victimise and discriminated against breastfeeders?

    ..........
    :happylove DD July 2011:happylove

    Aug 13 [STRIKE]£4235.19[/STRIKE]:eek: £2550.00 :cool:
  • vroombroom
    vroombroom Posts: 1,117 Forumite
    Nicki wrote: »
    That's true but maybe then, using your argument, it should be available on prescription but only for mothers who can't breastfeed for medical reasons (either theirs or babies)? Mothers who would prefer not to, or who decide go give up because it is difficult in the first few weeks, can buy it from their child benefit at the normal price.

    I am fairly unsympathetic to complaints from FFers that milk is too expensive I am afraid, because in many cases it is just a way at taking another pop at breastfeeders. Rather than accepting that mik costs what it costs (ie is in line wih other food stuffs) some mothers like to portray themselves as victimized by the government/food manufacturers for their choice not to breast feed. The tax payer already pays most parents a subsidy to feed and clothe their children. Why should they pay an extra subsidy to a proportion of parents who want to formula feed? Would that not then victimise and discriminated against breastfeeders?

    I didnt read that as a 'pop' at BF mothers, just that milk is expensive - I can vouch for that because I spend between £50 and £60 a month on it

    Personally, I think all these experts and surveys and whatnots are tosh - if they are true then my son is going to be a stressed thief! (Referring to the articles about 16% of FF babies will be louts and kids at nurseries are stressed....) x
    :j:jOur gorgeous baby boy born 2nd May 2011 - 12 days overdue!!:j:j
  • Nicki
    Nicki Posts: 8,166 Forumite
    Apricot wrote: »
    Ah the sanctimonious breastfeeding brigade is out in force again I see?

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    Someone who didn't read my first post which said I had breastfed two children and formula fed one then!

    The post you quoted and took out of context was in response to one which said formula milk should be subsidized (ie sold at a loss) because some mothers could not feed. Not sure how it is breastapo to say that maybe those mothers should get it free but other mothers should pay the normal going rate for it!

    Or in your opinion should ALL formula feeders get free milk because breastfeeding is free?
  • moomoomama27
    moomoomama27 Posts: 3,823 Forumite
    DON79 wrote: »
    I know it is available everywhere - that is not the issue. The issue is that for those mothers who CANNOT breastfeed (not everyone can!) are being punished for it almost by having to pay ridiculously expensive prices for baby milk. I am sure it does not cost as much as £9 per tin to produce the baby milk and therefore the companies which make it, are making a great profit at the expense of others who have no choice but to buy their product.

    It's not a punsihment! It's called cost of food!! Why should it be subsidised?

    My children, I have 3, go through about £20 of cows milk per week, as well as many, many other foods!!! It's the price you pay to live!

    If you think £9-£18 per week is alot to spend on food for 1 child, wait till they get older!!
  • moomoomama27
    moomoomama27 Posts: 3,823 Forumite
    Apricot wrote: »
    Ah the sanctimonious breastfeeding brigade is out in force again I see?

    Oh I hate it when this line is trawled out :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    It's ok to have an opinion on breastfeeding in the positive even if you're not/never been a BF'der. As is it with re: to Formula feeding!

    For the most part was a formula feeding Mum, BF 1, FF 2! I don't understand why people moan about the cost of milk, it is what it is!

    It's also true that on average BF babies, are healthier, and smarter, but that doesn't mean if you FF you'll have a thick sickly child!

    Too many people take this subject (BF vs FF) far too personally!
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    vroombroom wrote: »
    Personally, I think all these experts and surveys and whatnots are tosh - if they are true then my son is going to be a stressed thief! (Referring to the articles about 16% of FF babies will be louts and kids at nurseries are stressed....) x

    Personally, I think you need to learn about statistics, research and increased and decreased risk..........
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • vroombroom
    vroombroom Posts: 1,117 Forumite
    why do I? Please enlighten me
    :j:jOur gorgeous baby boy born 2nd May 2011 - 12 days overdue!!:j:j
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    vroombroom wrote: »
    why do I? Please enlighten me


    Because of your obvious complete lack of comprehension of them.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • vroombroom
    vroombroom Posts: 1,117 Forumite
    seriously, love, it was a comment about things have been in the paper and news recently.

    However if it will make you happy and make you sleep better at night, I'm sure I can dig them out from whatever Mirror, Sun or Daily Mail I read it in - but I do need some time in which to do this, I need to sterilise my son's bottles ;)
    :j:jOur gorgeous baby boy born 2nd May 2011 - 12 days overdue!!:j:j
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