:mad: They don't pay overtime and it cant take it as time off.DO WE WORK FOR FREE?

galastur

Googlewhacker wrote: »

4 extra hours a week is nothing!

One you are doing one week in, one week out and you pay check doesn't get to the £950...And she works! she just doesn't stand around looking what others are doing, she is the one working the most as an example ...that is just her moto

custardy

Pete111 wrote: »

Unpaid OT may well be part and parcel of the contract (like many contracts) and definitely worth checking

I would suggest that if she wishes to climb higher than 'team supervisor' then she thinks very hard before annoucing she is working to rule.

the other side is why promote someone who you can keep just above base wages whilst scoring free hours from them

galastur

Person_one wrote: »

Staff work for free = less staff needed, lower wage bill, more profit, higher unemployment.

Yes it may be the case that its hard to get on unless you're willing to give up much semblance of an actual life for your employer, but it shouldn't be that way.

Most people are generally happy to put in a few extra hours here and there if its infrequent and they feel that their employer genuinely appreciates it and respects them. When its taken for granted that you'll work for free every shift and never complain for fear of being branded 'not a team player' then its only natural you start to resent it.

That is exactly it...Not only there is no appreciation whatsoever! it is becoming usual...

I have a "professional" job and have never experienced this before. I honestly thought this did not happen in the UK

galastur

custardy wrote: »

the other side is why promote someone who you can keep just above base wages whilst scoring free hours from them

It is funny, because we also thought about that!!! Plus the managers are moved every 2 years.

The only thing it is clear is that it is not a clear cut!...and that people should not have to be put in this position

custardy

galastur wrote: »

It is funny, because we also thought about that!!! Plus the managers are moved every 2 years.

The only thing it is clear is that it is not a clear cut!...and that people should not have to be put in this position

obviously i cant speak for everywhere
however in nearly every job i have been in there have been low to middle level people who are the cornerstone of a workplace for various reasons
they work hard but are often passed over for promotions
RM is a good recent example
they used to 'make up' posties to managers
then they would work their way up (I wont comment on suitability or ability
now they have 'deputys' who work as junior managers sometimes and posties the rest
they get £15 per day they work as a manager and !$*@ from both sides

claire16c

Is there anything in her contract about being paid over time even if it says she doesnt have to do over time or not? Because if it says in her contract she will get paid for over time she should point this out to her manager. It seems like he is not managing his budget properly and therefore is trying to get staff to work for free - probably so he does not get into trouble from above. Which is not her fault.

Whenever Ive worked on a salaried job I always did extra hours because it was the nature of the job - and like people have said its what you do to get ahead. Over time pay was not expected.

However when Ive worked in hourly paid jobs there is no way I would be working for free and definitely not 4 hours a week.

Can your wife speak to someone in the HR dept? When I used to work in a supermarket the managers used to tell us lies all the time about stuff we had to do, and the quickest way to get it sorted if they would not listen to me telling them they were wrong was to go over their heads to HR and they sorted it out for me everytime.

Or she needs to stand up for herself and say sorry she cant stay on longer, make up an excuse if necessary, or she will but she needs to be paid.

Brodiebobs

i know at my place were expected to stay upto 15 minutes after our finish time, we only get time back (not pay, and often no holiday available to take) if it goes over 15 mins. They get round this by saying we have a 15 min 'paid' break in the afternoon, we work 7hr days, 45min lunch 15 min break morning, then our 'paid' break in aft. Thing that grates is the supervisors on around £3 per hr more than us get paid double time after 6, they're more than willing to stop behind most evenings. :mad:

SarEl

galastur wrote: »

I have a "professional" job and have never experienced this before. I honestly thought this did not happen in the UK

And which UK have you been living in? Sorry, but not being fascetious here - there is far far worse than a bit of unpaid overtime, and there always has been. And I am not talking about the exceptions. You are really lucky if in yiour "professional job" you haven't ever come across it - because it happens with all types of employers and all types of jobs and at all types of levels. You really are very fortunate if you think that this is an example of poor employment, and I hope you never come across any worse. I have, every day of my working life. Victorian England never went away - it just got a bit cosier.

Gillyx

I've worked in a supermarket in a variety of different positions including a team leader type position and always had to work extra, it was a case of getting the work done, some times if it had been a busy day, you would be running an hour behind but it was expected you'd do it. It's the type of environment where x amount of things need to be done in a day, it's not like the work can roll over to the next as it starts all over again. I got paid a lot less than £7.20 as well, sometimes you have to suck it up.

patman99

Of course, once you climb the ladder to the hieght of 'Store Manager', you can make sure everyone gets paid overtime.

Where I currently work, I have to obtain clearance from the head of dept. to work overtime. Trouble is, I never know until the last minute as to whether or not I will need to work-on. By that time he has gone home.

My son lives near a big and newly-refurbished Mr T's, so. being out of work he asked for an application form. They told him not to bother as they had just laid-off 10 staff and were looking at laying-off some more.

One thing, how come Aldi can pay £8.00 p/h minimum, yet 'S', 'T' and 'A' can only manage £6.13 ?.