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Why we have riots
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That's another part of the problem. We espouse a moral vacuum. and then complain at the results.Who gives a damn. It's her money.
Amorality doesn't start with chavs either."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
That's another part of the problem. We espouse a moral vacuum. and then complain at the results.
Amorality doesn't start with chavs either.
We don't espouse a moral vacuum. We espouse a society which respects the fact that you can do what you like with your honestly earned cash. She may not have earned it but her family did so she's fully entitled to do whatever she wants with it without interference.
If you want to emulate her go and make some money.0 -
Missing the point completely. The famous "quote" is merely a convenient label for the prevailing attitude.The "let them eat cake" reference shows you don't know what you're talking about. It wasn't said. Not by Marie Antoinette or anyone else.
I see it still prevails in some quarters."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
[quote=[Deleted User];47001675]With the possible exception of the first riot the rest was just looting conducted mostly by people with previous convictions. The reason for these mass lootings is that the people who did it are opportunist scum and had every reason to believe they would get away with it.
With regards to Tara Ecclestone, what she did shouldn't be illegal it is just a sad reflection on her values that instead of doing something positive with £1 million she wastes it like this.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was all the banks fault.0 -
If you've got coronary heart disease, it's always there even when you aren't actually having a heart attack at the moment.Well for a start we don't actually 'have riots' - as that suggests that riots are a permanent and ongoing feature.
At all levels of society. We've got rich kids who know nothing except how to waste money. We've got an education system that throws bright poor kids on the scrapheap while generating automatic honours degrees for middle-class morons (and a Cabinet to prove it). We've got millions with no idea that a cohesive and effective society depends on obligations as well as rights. When the chav thinks "what's in it for me" his attitude is no different from that of the banker. But the banker's attitude goes unquestioned. Bankers are only hated because they blew it, but they were screwing us long before that, and admired for it.Look it's quite simple - we have bred a generation which thinks the world owes it a living and designer trainers.
Why, aren't those people suffering enough?Personally I think there should be a programme of sending these kids (because it IS largely, youth) to work in countries where people have to struggle just to get water for their day to day needs, where there are no medical facilities on tap and where there is very little safety net if you get sick or disabled."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
i actually would quite like a crystal bath, and have discussed that on the nice thread in the recent path. however i'm not called tamara.
As a crystal bath is something I would like, then I'm I more entitled to feel aggreved because I can't afford one? Or should I be grateful I can afford any bath?
Who defines worth? Our society pays billions to preserve its art and heritage...while people in the world die. So, I guess one can very easily argue that art is worth more than human life to our society. Meanwhile, we also pay over the odds to support individuals whose return worth to society is less than nothing, so we can also argue that people's lives are more important than they are financially worth.
all this wondering about worth after a days gardening the land I shouldn't be allowed to afford to have makes me want to go and have a nice, long soak in my acrylic tub.0 -
Missing the point completely. The famous "quote" is merely a convenient label for the prevailing attitude.
I see it still prevails in some quarters.
So we accept a an attitude based on a misrepresentation?
Fwiw, I thought it was a real enough quote based on a different interpretation much as Glyn described....which initself was bad enough because it also showed a lack of appreciation of hardship being endured at the time.
Of course, if our youth ate less cake and smoked/drank less they might have got more goods as a result of their ''protest''0 -
Probably. Only yesterday there were news pictures of somebody in Pakistan trying to wash himself in contaminated flood water. I expect he'd like a crystal bath as well.lostinrates wrote: »Or should I be grateful I can afford any bath?
Anything more than what is reasonably necessary raises all sorts of questions that aren't really answered by "I would like one"."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
The attitude was real enough.lostinrates wrote: »So we accept a an attitude based on a misrepresentation?
While the Prince Regent was tarting up palaces, half the population were paupers and vagrants.
The scum of the earth is what Wellington called his men after a victory in battle was followed by a looting episode. And he meant it. He despised his men. He also meant it when he said they frightened him. Of course nothing much had changed in WW1."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
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