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£250-00 to fit new brake pads and discs ?

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  • poppasmurf_bewdley
    poppasmurf_bewdley Posts: 5,937 Forumite
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    edited 13 September 2011 at 11:38AM
    fivetide wrote: »
    Well aren't you a helpful and non-condescending person?

    See that question mark?

    That is in my original post. I didn't make a statement, I posed a question. Congratulations on looking like a true keyboard warrior.

    I still would say, do not put a new tyre on the same axle as a well worn one even if it is legal. When you brake the tyres are not independent are they? One side will potentially have more grip than the other, this could be bad on bends in poor weather or screw up your ABS if one wheel is losing traction quicker than the other.

    Please note the 'well worn' element of that (as existed in my previous post). and the fact I said you can do one (in fact kick off like that again and you can 'do one' smurfy) if the other tyre is fairly new.

    5t.

    When you come out with such utter drivel, then you have to expect other people to take issue with you. Which is what I have done - as have other people on this forum who have agreed that you do not need to change tyres in pairs.

    If you want to do so, then go ahead, put please don't advise others to spend money needlessly by offering bad information.

    PS. I think your comment on ABS shows how little you know about this aspect of vehicle ownership. ABS is there specifically to work if one wheel loses traction quicker than another.
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  • marlot
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    fivetide wrote: »
    ... The new one will wear down faster than it would if both tyres where the same age surely?

    No. The tyres are pretty independent.

    The only vehicles where its important to keep the tyres matched (brand etc) and tread depth are some four wheel drive cars. Vauxhall calibra 4x4 turbo springs to mind, but I might be mistaken.
  • fivetide
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    marlot wrote: »
    No. The tyres are pretty independent.

    The only vehicles where its important to keep the tyres matched (brand etc) and tread depth are some four wheel drive cars. Vauxhall calibra 4x4 turbo springs to mind, but I might be mistaken.


    Well done.

    NOTE TO PAPPABLUEMIDGET (or whatever)

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    Se? It is really easy if you try. Some of us don't have to, it comes natural to people without a Napoleon syndrome/borderline personality defect.

    5t.
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  • Strider590
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    marlot wrote: »
    OT Rant: Please ... Brunel was an Engineer, Stephenson was an Engineer. The 'technician' at a Kwik fit is not. Part of the reason this country has little manufacturing base any more is that real Engineers feel denigrated!

    Ford do employ some rather good Engineers - but they mainly work in R&D!

    PS. In case you hadn't guessed, I am a Chartered Engineer. If I were to give you duff advice (professionally) I can be fined and/or struck off by my professional institution. When I visit France or Germany, my professional engineering status is held in high regard (comparable to a doctor etc). Only in the UK (ironically the birthplace of the industrial revolution) do we treat our professional engineers so badly.

    A recent commons investigation found that English Engineers are respected everywhere around the world ... except England.


    100%!!!!!!!

    This country treats engineers like !!!!, devalued by f**kwits who put "engineer" into job titles for roles that do not require ANY engineering skill whatsoever.
    "Sky dish installation engineer" = plank with a screwdriver
    "Tyre fitting engineer" = plank who lost his screwdriver trying to wreck someone CAT


    Myself an Electronics engineer, find the profession devalued by schools doing basic electronics in GSCE and idiot employers thinking "why pay this guy when we can get a school leaver for min wage?".
    Technology is so "accessible", user friendly and "throw away" these days, that people take the skills behind it for granted.

    Not only this, but a uni degree no longer makes one an Engineer, learning text books and repeating back does not mean you can cut it in the real world. A true engineer has to have a passion for his/her area of expertise.
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  • fivetide wrote: »
    Well done.

    NOTE TO PAPPABLUEMIDGET (or whatever)

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    Se? It is really easy if you try. Some of us don't have to, it comes natural to people without a Napoleon syndrome/borderline personality defect.

    5t.

    The experience your getting is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.
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  • marlot
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    Time to lighten the mood with a couple of Engineering jokes (we see the world differently to other people)...

    To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

    A pastor, a doctor and an engineer were waiting one morning for a particularly slow group of golfers. The engineer fumed, "What's with these guys? We must have been waiting for 15 minutes!" The doctor chimed in, "I don't know, but I've never seen such ineptitude! The pastor said, "Hey, here comes the greenskeeper. Let's have a word with him." "Hi George. Say, what's with that group ahead of us? They're rather slow, aren't they?" The greenskeeper replied, "Oh, yes, that's a group of blind firefighters. They lost their sight saving our clubhouse from a fire last year, so we always let them play for free anytime." The group was silent for a moment. The pastor said, "That's so sad. I think I will say a special prayer for them tonight." The doctor said, "Good idea. And I'm going to contact my ophthalmologist buddy and see if there's anything he can do for them." The engineer said, "Why can't these guys play at night?"
  • Gavin83
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    marlot wrote: »
    PS. In case you hadn't guessed, I am a Chartered Engineer. If I were to give you duff advice (professionally) I can be fined and/or struck off by my professional institution. When I visit France or Germany, my professional engineering status is held in high regard (comparable to a doctor etc). Only in the UK (ironically the birthplace of the industrial revolution) do we treat our professional engineers so badly.

    A recent commons investigation found that English Engineers are respected everywhere around the world ... except England.

    Can I ask in what way are engineers respected abroad that they aren't in the UK? Is this a financial issue or something else?
  • marlot
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    edited 13 September 2011 at 12:29PM
    Gavin83 wrote: »
    Can I ask in what way are engineers respected abroad that they aren't in the UK? Is this a financial issue or something else?
    For a start, I'd be referred to as Engineer Marlot, in the same way that someone would be referred to using their Dr title in the UK.

    The government report is here: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmselect/cmdius/50/5002.htm

    From personal experience, I found Scotland to recognise the need for real engineering more than England and Wales. Scotland's engineering grew up in close relation to the ship building, and at one time a staggering number of ships engineers were Scottish - its not an accident that the engineer in star trek was called 'Scotty' - lots of ships engineers were! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institution_of_Engineers_and_Shipbuilders_in_Scotland

    As for why engineers are not respected in England. I think originally it was a class thing. In germany, if your father was an engineer, you might also aspire to be one - they created some big family firms. In England, if your father was an Engineer, you probably aspired to become a gentleman or an MP. There are few major father and son engineers in England. Marc and IK Brunel (but Marc was French). The Stevensons.
  • Strider590
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    marlot wrote: »
    For a start, I'd be referred to as Engineer Marlot, in the same way that someone would be referred to using their Dr title in the UK.


    You'd also be highly unlikely to work under a manager who knew less than you did.
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  • Gavin83
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    I was always under the impression that the title 'Dr' referred to your level of education rather than your career choice, you can have the title Dr. without actually working in the medical industry. Have you studied an Engineering Phd?

    I still don't understand what you mean when you refer to respect. Besides the title, what respect and thus advantages would you get abroad that you don't get in the UK?
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