Navy sub recruitment

Fergie76

!!!!!! wrote: »

It would have been nice if you had explained a bit more but since you didn't then I will.

Surprisingly the RN have chef(submariners) (something I didn't know)

However my other point still stands. With an extra £5k when you get your dolphins then i would expect competition for places to be fierce.

I was posting from my phone.

What is surprising about the RN having Chef(SM).

I take it you have never served on a Submarine? When you have, you will realise, money isn't everything. Not everyone can serve on Boats.

Fergie76

Whatliesbeneth wrote: »

i wouldn't do it if i wasn't paid as well as i am to be honest, and we do have severe manning problems from time to time in various branches so no competition isn't fierce as we cant get them through the door in the first place. bums on seats as the saying goes.

And Chef and back aftie has to be the two worst jobs onboard.

moonrakerz

johanne wrote: »

on the subs...

..........they are not "subs"...........they are either "submarines" or "boats" (NEVER ships !!)

System

Fergie76 wrote: »

What is surprising about the RN having Chef(SM).

The surprising bit was that the RN sees the need to have a specialist chef when the other arms of the Forces make do with a single trade.

But there again what can you expect from an organisation that includes the trade in the person's rank

moonrakerz

!!!!!! wrote: »

But there again what can you expect from an organisation that includes the trade in the person's rank

.....the most sensible way to do it. You know his trade and his level of qualification within that trade from that.

Fergie76

!!!!!! wrote: »

The surprising bit was that the RN sees the need to have a specialist chef when the other arms of the Forces make do with a single trade.

So really you know nothing about the Senior Service?

You need specialist training to become a Submariner, therefore not just anyone can do it.

You would not send an infantryman/rifleman or whatever they are called to do a Para's or SAS job? And you wouldn't send a Helo Pilot to fly a jet. They are after all both pilots. Just like you can't send a GS rating to an SM job, without extensive training.

!!!!!! wrote: »

But there again what can you expect from an organisation that includes the trade in the person's rank

And what's funny about that? You know exactly who you re talking to then and if they have the right experience to do the job.

System

But they are still just a Chef(GS) who has done the submariners course (albeit immediately after basic training).

Just like you can't send a GS rating to an SM job, without extensive training.

You can if you send them on the same submariners course that all other trades do for the submarine role surely. Or are you saying that the chef skills taught are totally different?

Is there anything to stop a 'normal' chef going for submarines?

You are right that I know nothing about the RN (Senior Service to me is an untipped cigarette that my grandfather used to smoke)

anxious_mum

I don't know anything about the RN apart from the fact that my brother served in submarines for 20 odd years (not all at once, he did come out sometimes!) I have never felt so claustrophobic as when I was allowed onto one during an open day or something. It looked so huge from the outside but felt so tiny inside. It's definitely not the life for everyone.

moonrakerz

!!!!!! wrote: »

But they are still just a Chef(GS) who has done the submariners course (albeit immediately after basic training).
You can if you send them on the same submariners course that all other trades do for the submarine role surely. Or are you saying that the chef skills taught are totally different?

Generally, if a chef (or any other trade) wishes to serve in submarines, he will have to undergo two lots of shore training first.

1. A general submariner's training course. This covers how a submarine works, the systems on the submarine and what is different to a surface ship. On a submarine YOU must know something about everything - if water starts pouring in YOU must do something - not much good saying "I'm a chef, nothing to do with me".
How to escape from a submarine in a 100ft deep water tank - "breathe out all the way up"
2. Training specific to the submarine/job you are going to. The galley equipment will be totally different to what you had on your last aircraft carrier. Also you will get an insight into the much increased responsibility that you, as an individual, will have placed on you. Lot more canned/frozen food to use than you are used to. Routines/mealtimes are different.

Then - when you join your first submarine - you will have a third lot of training to undergo - in your limited free time. You are then known by the derogatory title of being "a part 3".
This training covers every minute detail of your submarine. Where all the water/hydraulic pipes go. Where does the electricity come from/go.
How do you empty the s**t tank, if you have to.............

When you finally pass that, usually after a detailed examination by the XO of the submarine, you are presented with your "Dolphins" - then you are a "Submariner".


It's a great life...................