Mobile home on own land???

Debt_Free_Chick

nattybone wrote:

the only thing is that i was under the impression that use for agricultural was not the same class as equestrian as we had to get the planning specifically changed from ag to eq when we got permission for the stables. it got them two sets of fees for planning app!

Yes, you're right - there is a subtle distinction between agricultural & equestrian land. A farmer can put a working horse in a field without any problems - as it would be classed as "livestock" and therefore farming. He would probably be allowed to erect a modest stable too -without PP as certain "permitted developments" are allowed on agricultural land. However, where the field is used for a horse kept for riding or breeding, then that falls to be classed as equestrian use - and building a stable for riding/breeding horses needs planning permission.

I've been a bit sloppy with the terms agricultural and equestrian land and some development rights & issues are different - but when it comes to residential development, they are both classed pretty much the same (along with forestry/woodland and some amenity land).

In fact, think about it the other way around. If land is not currently classed as residential, then you will generally have a helluva battle getting planning permission.

Incidentally, there are some limited rights relating to caravans on agricultural land but not, I think, on equestrian land. Agricultural land can, for example, be used to station a single caravan for no more than two consequetive nights and no more than 28 nights a year - so of no help to you (and I'm not sure if the same applies to equestrian land).

Your best bet is to talk to the planning officers. They can only tell you what the rules are - it's not down to their personal wishes as they have to follow national and local planning guidelines, for which the planning officer is "only the messenger".

HTH

(BTW - I am not an expert in these matters. But I am a Parish Council Clerk and spend most of my time dealing with planning matters/concerns from local residents. So all of this is what I've picked up from dealing with similar situations and talking to our local planning officers).

Cheers

rory41444

Its your land do what you want. If you want to sell your house and keep the field and stables its up to you. If you want to put a mobile home in your field thats also up to you. You wont need planning permission unless you intend to live in it permanently. Some people don't bother getting planning permission but there will always be a nosey neighbour who will report you so its probably better that you do. This shouldn't be a problem especially if you have nowhere else to live. Also, if you position it close to or even behind the stables if this is possible, it will lessen its visual impact and so give nosey neighbours less reason to complain.

Hereward

rory41444 wrote:

Its your land do what you want. If you want to sell your house and keep the field and stables its up to you. If you want to put a mobile home in your field thats also up to you. You wont need planning permission unless you intend to live in it permanently. Some people don't bother getting planning permission but there will always be a nosey neighbour who will report you so its probably better that you do. This shouldn't be a problem especially if you have nowhere else to live. Also, if you position it close to or even behind the stables if this is possible, it will lessen its visual impact and so give nosey neighbours less reason to complain.

Whilst it is your land and you can do with it want you want, the planning laws will stop you doing most things. There was a case recently near me of a couple who sold there house and built a stable-like structure to live in on some land that they owned. The local councio took a very dim view of this and eventualy demolished the property and made the couple homeless.

Debt_Free_Chick

Hereward wrote:

Whilst it is your land and you can do with it want you want, the planning laws will stop you doing most things. There was a case recently near me of a couple who sold there house and built a stable-like structure to live in on some land that they owned. The local councio took a very dim view of this and eventualy demolished the property and made the couple homeless.

Even Sir Paul McCartney has been ordered to demolish a log cabin that he built in the grounds of his own property.

clutton_2

on the other hand i know someone who built stables, and over a period eventually quietly turned them into a long bungalow

Debt_Free_Chick

clutton wrote:

on the other hand i know someone who built stables, and over a period eventually quietly turned them into a long bungalow

It will work provided the planning enforcement doesn't find out (or get told!!). Once the land has been in residential use for 12 years, the planning authority has no option other than to allow change of use to residential.

This is precisely how "back door" development takes place on fields & green belt and precisely why we have so many planning regulations in place.

prudryden

clutton wrote:

on the other hand i know someone who built stables, and over a period eventually quietly turned them into a long bungalow

He probably kept within the guidelines of height restrictions. I can do that with a summer house as long as it is a certain distance from the main house, certain distance from any neighbours boundaries and, I think, not higher at the peak of 12 foot. I did receive the rules sometime ago, but will have to look for them. But it wouldn't be for permanent residency.

rory41444

A mobile home is just that - mobile. If the planners don't like it move it to the other side of the stables or field.

Debt_Free_Chick

rory41444 wrote:

A mobile home is just that - mobile. If the planners don't like it move it to the other side of the stables or field.

And what do you do when they issue you with a Court Order telling you to remove it from that piece of land altogether?

Debt_Free_Chick

rory41444 wrote:

A mobile home is just that - mobile. If the planners don't like it move it to the other side of the stables or field.

And what do you do when they serve you with a Court Order telling you to remove it from that parcel of land altogether?