son hit neighbours car

sock-knitter

birkee wrote: »

And how do they get these items to the park? Whats to stop a clumsy pedestrian falling over them in the park?
How do they get the children to accompany the parent to the shops unless tempted by scooter / bike rides?
How can they injure a pedestrian, unless the pedestrian is very careless? Doesn't the same risk apply to dropped shopping, balls coming over a hedge, a child falling over across the pavement etc etc.
This sounds like "everybody keep out of my way" from you.

my mum walks with a walking stick, and is slow at walking, many a time a child has rode into her, cos the said child was not looking
my sons never took bikes or scooters to the shops, as they may have been pinched while we were in the shop
cant parent/carers, get the child to push the scooter or bike to the park, if not, why not?

bestpud

MY teenage son ran into the back of a car parked on the road a few years ago - he was cycling.

I said I'd pay for the repairs but in the end, the owner tried claiming for lots of things that could not possibly be related to the bump.

When pushed for a quote, he provided one from a local garage with no details of the repair and said they were willing to do it VAT free - something he'd negotiated as a 'favour' for me.

I can't remember completely, but the gist is, I went to the CAB and they said the owner could not force me to pay but they could take out a claim against my son and it could be put on hold until he started earning money.

As it happened, when challenged about the actual damage (if any), they backed off and we never heard another word.

That may not happen in your case but make sure you check quotes thoroughly if you decide to pay out.

Have you taken photos of the cars on the pavement?

Maybe you could offer to pay half, as your son may not have fallen if he'd had full use of the pavement?

Glass_Half_Empty??

thegirlintheattic wrote: »

It's not illegal outside of London, should is different to must. In many cases parking cars wholly in the road would be more of an inconviance or even dangerous due to the width of many residential roads.

ROSPA (http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/adviceandinformation/general/scooters.aspx) seems to suggest that scooter's are dodgy ground on the pavement themselves and shouldn't be used in narrow or crowded pavements.

OP - Your child did the damage by accident. It sounds like you are just trying to get out of paying. Set a good example to your child and pay up.

I disagree, seeing as I fail a driving test in 2001 for pulling up on the kerb. It was an illegal manoeuvre so a strike, it was also still illegal when passing my class one HGV 3 years ago so unless its changed(and I havent been informed) then he was parked illegally and I would tell him very nicely that you wont be paying, as he was parked illegally and had he of been parked properly it wouldnt of happened I would suggest he parks better in furute
The reason police dont ticket cars for being on the roads is that it just isnt realistic on todays congested roads.
If I am proved wrong though I accept defeat.

Edit. Just checked highway code and found this
244
You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.
So he is parked illegally, and as also mentioned he may not have insurance for the vehicles so call his bluff

globalds

In London it is against the Law to park on the pavement.

In the rest of UK it is causing an obstruction which is less clear cut.

244
You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.
[Law GL(GP)A sect 15]

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069860

Glass_Half_Empty??

globalds wrote: »

In London it is against the Law to park on the pavement.

In the rest of UK it is causing an obstruction which is less clear cut.



http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069860

What part of "and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it" is not clear cut? It means dont park there, no wonder so many cars are constatly parked in the wrong place making my job harder to do because of idiots who cant abide by simple rules

2girlsforme

globalds wrote: »

Why didn't you complain about the cars before your kid hit one of them ...seems to me your looking for a reason not to do the right thing.

If someone damaged something of yours what would you hope for ?

If someone damaged my car because it was parked on a pavement which are designed for pedestrians not parking - then I would think "its my own fault because it shouldn't have been there!"

birkee wrote: »

Isn't it lucky, the car didn't damage her Son!


The car should not have been on the pavement, maybe next time a wheelchair can scrape down his side.
say the same back to him.

completely agree! I am having similar problem just now with a car on my route to school - because I am making my children walk/scooter to school instead of putting them in the car and driving there, and I tell my girls to squeeze past the car no matter what - its bad enough that I have to take the pram onto the road - but I am not making them walk on it if I dont have too!

I have a note ready in my pocket to put on the car next time I pass it which says 'please have some consideration when parking, pavements are for pedestrians!' makes me wild!!! even worse the father in the house is a policeman!

OP no way would I pay - especially if its not an immediate neighbour.

globalds

Glass_Half_Empty?? wrote: »

What part of "and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it" is not clear cut? It means dont park there, no wonder so many cars are constatly parked in the wrong place making my job harder to do because of idiots who cant abide by simple rules

The must in the paragraph concerning London is backed by a specific law.

The should not is advice that could end up meaning you break another law.

I think during a driving test going on the kerb would be a fail ..But you would struggle to find an actual law you had broken ...

Glass_Half_Empty??

globalds wrote: »

The must in the paragraph concerning London is backed by a specific law.

The should not is advice that could end up meaning you break another law.

I think during a driving test going on the kerb would be a fail ..But you would struggle to find an actual law you had broken ...

Talk about splitting hairs, so the highway code says you shouldn't park there and you defend a guy who does :rotfl:

Glass_Half_Empty??

Where is the common sense these days? Don't park the car where you SHOULDN'T and dont moan if it gets damaged parked there!
I really can't believe some of the crap posted in this thread, he shouldn't of been there so he can't moan end of!

*Redhead*

Imp wrote: »

When you get the bill, make the child go round every week to the car owner, and hand over his pocket money until the debt is paid off.

That'll learn him.

What will it teach him?

Never to have an accident? Never to fall over in case he damages something? Or do you think it should teach him to play on the road and not on the pavement, where more than likely, a more serious incident will occur?

He's 6 for gods sake, not as if he meant to fall over.

I'm sure you broke things when you were little...