son hit neighbours car

thunderbird

Some info here on scooter use -

http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/adviceandinformation/general/scooters.aspx

birkee

sock-knitter wrote: »

when my sons were little, i had a double buggy, and often had to go onto the roaad to get around the cars on the pavement.
children should be playing in parks or in their own garden not a public place where scooters/ bikes/scateboards etc can injure a pedestrian, who does have the right to walk there
both in the wrong in my opinion

And how do they get these items to the park? Whats to stop a clumsy pedestrian falling over them in the park?
How do they get the children to accompany the parent to the shops unless tempted by scooter / bike rides?
How can they injure a pedestrian, unless the pedestrian is very careless? Doesn't the same risk apply to dropped shopping, balls coming over a hedge, a child falling over across the pavement etc etc.
This sounds like "everybody keep out of my way" from you.

busiscoming2

Did you son actually break this bit of car when he fell, or do you think the neighbour is using the fall as an excuse to try and get you to pay for it?

birkee

dirtysexymonkey wrote: »

youd counter claim for that?:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Yeh, too true, he hurt himself on an obstruction that should not have been there.
What would you do, if you bumped your head on bar hanging from the roof of the bus, because the screws had come out?
Pay the bus company because you bent the bar when you banged your head?
Funny logic!

Mids_Costcutter

thegirlintheattic wrote: »

It's not illegal outside of London, should is different to must. In many cases parking cars wholly in the road would be more of an inconviance or even dangerous due to the width of many residential roads.

ROSPA (http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/adviceandinformation/general/scooters.aspx) seems to suggest that scooter's are dodgy ground on the pavement themselves and shouldn't be used in narrow or crowded pavements.

OP - Your child did the damage by accident. It sounds like you are just trying to get out of paying. Set a good example to your child and pay up.

Causing an obstruction is an offence. If it's dangerous to park a car wholly in the road then the motorist unfortunately has to find somewhere else to park.

Old_Git

has the OP got insurance to cover damage , accidental or otherwise

globalds

Mids_Costcutter wrote: »

Causing an obstruction is an offence. If it's dangerous to park a car wholly in the road then the motorist unfortunately has to find somewhere else to park.

It doesn't alter the fact that if you see an obstruction the proper thing to do is go and find the owner of the vehicle and ask them to move it or report it .
It doesn't allow you to cause damage and then have some kind of reasonable excuse.

Perhaps the best thing for Mum to do in the future would be to supervise the child when they are out near the public highway.

birkee

Imp wrote: »

I think the Highways Act 1835 Section 72 covers this. They should (if you want to follow the law) restrict themselves to highways, byways and bridleways.

The law is, in many respects, an !!!(donkey). Please write to your MP to sort this out at once.

quoted source.

The Pavement
Most scooter users seem to ride on the pavement. However, the legal position about riding scooters on pavements seems to be unclear. It has been suggested that they are covered by the same legislation which makes it an offence to ride a bicycle on the footpath. But it seems more likely that police will decide whether or not to take action according to local circumstances.

So which law am I to follow?

birkee

globalds wrote: »

It doesn't alter the fact that if you see an obstruction the proper thing to do is go and find the owner of the vehicle and ask them to move it or report it .
It doesn't allow you to cause >DELIBERATE< damage and then have some kind of reasonable excuse.

Perhaps the best thing for Mum to do in the future would be to supervise the child when they are out near the public highway.

Corrected this for you.

sunnyone

I am a fulltime powerchair user and I frequenly have problems with vehicles parked over the pavement, it is illegal to park like that, I have regular contact with both the local council and police and if offenders continue to block the pavements they visit them to make sure that they understand that its their fault if their cars get damaged and that they will be prosicuted for causing and obstruction on the highway.

I cant just leap off the pavement and go around offending vehicles, I am the victim of this indiscriminate parking and so are children unless they are deliberatly trying to damage property.