son hit neighbours car

newcook

claire16c wrote: »

It would be a lot more inconsiderate if people parked in the road and blocked other people from getting out!

it wouldnt be more inconsiderate - it would be just as inconsiderate.


these people who chose to park on pavements blocking most of the walkway are probably the same people who turn corners without indicating. I think these drivers tend to forget that the indication of the turn is to all those near, including pedestrians - not just to the driver behind

Imp

birkee wrote: »

Well, thats the theory sorted out!
Now how about experience of car building and repair?

I've worked with many graduates who were crap at the practical level.
In fact, when I worked as a Production Engineer, I was made redundant during cut-backs, but managed to find a job in the Laboratory to keep me going (same employer.) They kept on the graduates they had instead.
Do you know, forever after that, I was being called off my job, to sort out this graduates difficulties, even once, when he called in an outside contractor, who also couldn't sort out the problem.
It took me 5 minutes to identify the problem, and action repairs.

The graduates also spent a fortune trying to make a piece of equipment work, that I told them before they bought it, that it would never work. It never did, despite the attempts of THREE graduates over time. About £25k wasted I think it was, and that's not counting man hours.

So congratulations regarding your qualifications.
Wish I had some like that.

Do we have to submit CVs and two references before being allowed to disagree with you?

elvis86

mishkanorman wrote: »

It took 10 minutes to get past 1 car because I was unable to use the pavement and at rush hour there was no break in the traffic - only the good sense of one driver who blocked the moving traffic so i could get my children around the obstacle safely saved me from being there longer.

So if it wouldnt have happened to you, what would you have done ?

The thing is, I don't think that this is the kind of road that the OP is talking about? Seeing as she allowed her 6 year old to go out on his scooter alone to call for his friend 5 houses down the road, I have assumed that she lives on a quiet residential street.

And furthermore, I don't think that anyone has defended a motorist's right to entirely obstruct the pavement on a busy main road.

What I, and a couple of others have said, is that on a quiet, narrow street, it makes more sense to park half on the pavement (leaving space for pedestrians to pass), and doesn't really cause that much of an issue for the odd mum with a large buggy to have to step out into a road that people deem safe enough to allow their kids to play in, and who is likely to have her own car parked in a similar fashion not too far away.

To all you parents getting outraged, I assume that you have no cars/that the cars you do have are all parked on driveways and causing no obstruction to anyone? Even if this is the case, I'd be interested to see what you do when your kids grow up. Maybe they can't afford to leave home and you end up with the dilema of accomodating 3 or 4 cars with space on the driveway for 1? Will you be telling them to go park a mile away..?:cool:

POPPYOSCAR

newcook wrote: »

it wouldnt be more inconsiderate - it would be just as inconsiderate.


these people who chose to park on pavements blocking most of the walkway are probably the same people who turn corners without indicating. I think these drivers tend to forget that the indication of the turn is to all those near, including pedestrians - not just to the driver behind

Oh that SO annoys me as well.

It makes me want to knock on their window and say 'do you know your indicators are not working? and when they say 'yes they are' reply with 'Why don't you b----y use them then!!!!!!!'

elvis86

newcook wrote: »

these people who chose to park on pavements blocking most of the walkway are probably the same people who turn corners without indicating. I think these drivers tend to forget that the indication of the turn is to all those near, including pedestrians - not just to the driver behind

Wrong. I park half on the pavement when visiting my parents, but without fail I indicate every time I change lanes on the motorway all of the way home.;)

newcook

The OP has said that there wasn’t much space to get through and she has been and taken photos of this.

What if someone in a wheelchair wanted to get through? They cant just maneuver into the road then hop back up the curb once they have passed the car – they need to find somewhere along the road where the curb has dropped then travel in the road until they get to the next dropped curb so they can get back to the safety of the pavement.

While I don’t have a car, my housemate does – when we were looking for somewhere to live one of the main factors was she had somewhere to park.

As for young adults in the household – if they can afford to buy, run and maintain a car they can afford to live somewhere that has parking.

newcook

elvis86 wrote: »

Wrong. I park half on the pavement when visiting my parents, but without fail I indicate every time I change lanes on the motorway all of the way home.;)

hope you also do it every time you turn, not just on the motorway

carolan78

elvis86 wrote: »

The thing is, I don't think that this is the kind of road that the OP is talking about? Seeing as she allowed her 6 year old to go out on his scooter alone to call for his friend 5 houses down the road, I have assumed that she lives on a quiet residential street.

And furthermore, I don't think that anyone has defended a motorist's right to entirely obstruct the pavement on a busy main road.

What I, and a couple of others have said, is that on a quiet, narrow street, it makes more sense to park half on the pavement (leaving space for pedestrians to pass), and doesn't really cause that much of an issue for the odd mum with a large buggy to have to step out into a road that people deem safe enough to allow their kids to play in, and who is likely to have her own car parked in a similar fashion not too far away.

To all you parents getting outraged, I assume that you have no cars/that the cars you do have are all parked on driveways and causing no obstruction to anyone? Even if this is the case, I'd be interested to see what you do when your kids grow up. Maybe they can't afford to leave home and you end up with the dilema of accomodating 3 or 4 cars with space on the driveway for 1? Will you be telling them to go park a mile away..?:cool:

I'm not outraged at how/where he parked but as a driver I accept that no matter where I park my car it could be damaged. Have you never returned to your car in a carpark and noticed someone had damaged it with their door, or worse still as happened to me, it has a huge scratch all down the side where someone has squeezed the trolley between your car and theirs?

It was a 6 year old child falling off his scooter for whatever reason not some mindless vandal.

Teddy_KGB

I'm one of the evil people who park their car half on the pavement and half on the road outside their house.

I would love for some of you jobsworth type of people who can not see any grey area in this issue to drive down my street! Unfortunately over 100 years ago when my house was built, they didn't consider that in 2011 nearly every house would have at least 1 car and some 2.

A couple of months ago I was left a letter on my car from the bin men saying that they struggled to get down the street due to how I was parked (I'm normally at work when they come so this has never been an issue). I was parked half on the pavement and the cars opposite were parked fully on the road, now had I been fully on the road there is no way the bin lorry would have been able to get through and other vehicles would also struggle to get through. In my case I think it is ok to park half on the pavement therefore meaning cars can drive down the street easier, ok pedestrians have to cross the road to walk on the other pavement, but surely that is the better solution?

Now back to the original post, as we don't know the width of the street we can't really decide if the neighbour was being unreasonable by parking half on the pavement.

elvis86

carolan78 wrote: »

I'm not outraged at how/where he parked but as a driver I accept that no matter where I park my car it could be damaged. Have you never returned to your car in a carpark and noticed someone had damaged it with their door, or worse still as happened to me, it has a huge scratch all down the side where someone has squeezed the trolley between your car and theirs?

Yes, and if I was able to identify who had caused such damage I wouldn't hesitate to pursue them for the cost of repairing it!