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Best way to report HB fraud?
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I think it's called 'Social Conscience'..? Too many peeps 'turn a blind eye' to benefit fraud - they don't want to get involved - and think it doesn't affect them, but does it? These fraudsters are most likely better off than those struggling legitimately who are also PAYING for them. Why don't more people see this as a crime? It's stealing from Society.
Perhaps those defending benefit fraud have a vested interest..?0 -
Originally Posted by vax2002
I would mind your own business, you will live a longer happier life.
They can summons you to court on threat of arrest as a witness and you will have to face those you accuse and their family, they do store your details, if you are prepared to do this then fair enough.
I wanted to 'quote' the above post, but it had been deleted. What I will say to vax2002 is STOP POSTING THIS RUBBISH! It is totally incorrect, and anyone who reports Benefit Fraud anonymously, will remain just that, anonymous! There is no way that you can be traced, and the other post about tracing IP addresses is rubbish too - scare tactics I guess from those people who support benefit fraud - otherwise known as theft from the taxpayer!
Even if someone did voluntarily insist on giving their name and address, and the case were to go to court, this information would be classed as 'sensitive' in the prosecution case file, and would not be disclosed to the Defence at all - so again, you would remain anonymous.
Please remember - anonymous allegations are just that, anonymous!
With regard to reporting benefit fraud, I would say that you need to give as much information as possible. In this case mentioned here, it would be ideal if you could give the name of the partner, the times that they come and go, and also the name of an employer if possible, as this all adds strength to the case.
All fraud referrals are recorded, and then they get 'sifted'. This means someone goes through the referral and 'scores' it, the more points it has, the more likely it is to be investigated. The number of points it gets are based upon the information provided, so please pass on as much information as possible.
It is everyone's responsibilty to report Benefit Fraud.:TProud to have lived within my means all my life :T0 -
Some illnesses disabilities are variable. So one day she may be able to walk and another day she may not. If you have reported them 4 times it sound like she meets the criteria. What makes you qualified to to that assessment above those employed to do it?I have reported my neighbour 4 times re her disability car. She manages to walk up the street fine, wash the car, climb step ladders to wash the house windows.
So by going with the requirments she appears not to meet them.
Se can put on the limp when required, in fact she is known locally for it! She might have issues with her legs and gets all the Doc reports. But in reality she does not fit the criteria.- because of a physical disability, you are unable or virtually unable to walk without severe discomfort, or at risk of endangering your life or causing deterioration in your health by making the effort to walk
- you have no feet or legs
I get annoyed with people like my neighbours. Being on the sick for many years on Income Support/DLA comes with stigma, lazy ..... etc. I see myself a fit young guy, but my mind can create major issues. Hence why I see many Doctors.
Frustates me to the core of wanting to work, but can't! Yet people take it for a joy ride, God I was wanting my DLA reduced as was uncomfy the amount I get! ALL my family work in very well paid jobs and even my brother of 16 works. I was brought up to work and did till illness struck, but these people whom take the !!!! out the system drag people like me down.
Sorry for the rant, but good to get it off the chest.
Sounds like you have a vendetta and are a rather bitter person'The More I know about people the Better I like my Dog'
Samuel Clemens0 -
No one knows she's a fraudster. Its just the Bryandos assertion. I have no problems with people reporting those who they think are defrauding, but 4 times?! Sounds like the BD has been reading too much Daily Mail.I think it's called 'Social Conscience'..? Too many peeps 'turn a blind eye' to benefit fraud - they don't want to get involved - and think it doesn't affect them, but does it? These fraudsters are most likely better off than those struggling legitimately who are also PAYING for them. Why don't more people see this as a crime? It's stealing from Society.
Perhaps those defending benefit fraud have a vested interest..?'The More I know about people the Better I like my Dog'
Samuel Clemens0 -
No one knows she's a fraudster. Its just the Bryandos assertion. I have no problems with people reporting those who they think are defrauding, but 4 times?! Sounds like the BD has been reading too much Daily Mail.
I was addressing the OP
I'm referring to certainties (near as damn it), not idle speculation/personal judgments0 -
Jennifer_Jane wrote: »Is this true? My IP changes every time I unplug the router (I think). The last time I checked my IP, I was apparently in Saudi Arabia and not in damp and grey North West of England. Would be interested to hear if I can actually be tracked by my IP.
You have a dynamic IP, most people do. A dynamic IP changes, although timescale can vary. I have a static IP and prefer it that way for my setup, a static IP does you no favours if you are wanting to hide yourself - my IP is recognised immediately by any website, but I pay for a static IP. I have nothing to hide and the benefit of a static IP far outweighs the consequences, my own mail server being one of the benefits.
I am unsure why your IP showed that location, and would be interested in the site that showed you that information, unless you are behind a proxy.
While your dynamic IP changes, you can still be traced, it just requires a little more work. ISPs buy IP addresses in blocks or ranges. This means for example, if they get the block 12.13.14.01 to 12.13.14.99 means they have 99 IP addresses. The reality is they get more than this, so they could get the blocks 12.13.14.01 to 20.13.14.99 - which gives them 9 blocks of 99 Ips.
So yes, your IP can determine who your ISP is, and further searches and software can determine your location. All sites record IPs, databases can also contain IPs etc. I have explained the above in Laymans terms but if they did want to find who you are they can, the reality is they are unlikely to.“How people treat you becomes their karma; how you react becomes yours.”0 -
The public are the government's best eyes and ears for reporting benefit thieves and they will not do anything that stops this continual, valuable source of information. They are not interested in tracing the person who gives the information as they want to encourage people to report benefit thieves; but they are very interested in tracing those who are committing benefit fraud.
When reporting someone, you just give them as much detail as you can, so that they can then gather their own evidence to secure a conviction. The online form is vey easy to use as you choose the boxes you fill in.
I think we all know that those who lie to get benefits, will be the same ones who lie about the identity of the informant being traced;)
Benefit thieves are stealing from the taxpayer and making it harder for genuine claiments to get help.RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.0 -
This is because the majority of reports are inaccurate, done for vendetta, done out of jealousy etc and are exaggerated.
Where did you get your figures from?
From the DWP fiqures for last year, it seems to be about 50 -50 of calls to convictions. 476 benefit thieves reported every day and 232 benefit thieves convicted every day.
Assuming a large number of the calls: don't give enough information to help the fraud investigators: claiments manage to avoid a conviction: not enough investigaors; it seems your figures are out. Where did you get them from? Or was it just a guess?
I got my figures from here
http://campaigns.dwp.gov.uk/campaigns/benefit-thieves/
It’s not if we catch you, it’s when
Last year, we caught 56,493 benefit thieves – 232 every day:- with over 677 calls a day to our hotline
- with over 476 benefit thieves reported online every day
- by cross-checking the bank accounts of benefit thieves
- with hidden cameras and mobile surveillance
- with every means at our disposal.
RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.0 -
Some illnesses disabilities are variable. So one day she may be able to walk and another day she may not. If you have reported them 4 times it sound like she meets the criteria. What makes you qualified to to that assessment above those employed to do it?
Sounds like you have a vendetta and are a rather bitter person
Who is to say they have even looked into the reports?
:rotfl::rotfl: She is over here every day of the week and I know she is at it. In one way I admire how she manages it to be frank. As I would be stressed 24/7 with worry.
It has made me think of claiming for my bad back to be honest!
I suffer from pain after walking and at times when walking. But going by the DWP site on high rate mobility- because of a physical disability, you are unable or virtually unable to walk without severe discomfort, or at risk of endangering your life or causing deterioration in your health by making the effort to walk
- you have no feet or legs
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MissMoneypenny wrote: »Where did you get your figures from?
From the DWP fiqures for last year, it seems to be about 50 -50 of calls to convictions. 476 benefit thieves reported every day and 232 benefit thieves convicted every day.
Assuming a large number of the calls: don't give enough information to help the fraud investigators: claiments manage to avoid a conviction: not enough investigaors; it seems your figures are out. Where did you get them from? Or was it just a guess?
I got my figures from here
http://campaigns.dwp.gov.uk/campaigns/benefit-thieves/
It’s not if we catch you, it’s when
Last year, we caught 56,493 benefit thieves – 232 every day:- with over 677 calls a day to our hotline
- with over 476 benefit thieves reported online every day
- by cross-checking the bank accounts of benefit thieves
- with hidden cameras and mobile surveillance
- with every means at our disposal.
That's not 50% of calls leading to convictions, though, is it? They do their own off-the-bat detections and data matching. You've no idea how many of those 56,493 prosecutions were initiated by public reporting.0
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