16 year old gone back to here mum

kazz3105_2

Advise for my sister in law please. Quick background, Divorced her first husband over 15 years ago, was happy for the 2 children to stay with him as he had a much more stable life, the kids would have had to change schools and areas they both decided that they didnt want the kids upset even more than they where. Every thing was going great and the kids went regularly to see their mum. Dad met a new woman, everything went t**s up. Fast forward to August this year, daughter pregnant had baby and while she was pregnant her dad and 'step' mum railroaded her into giving them the baby ( unfortunatly for her step mum she cannot have children of her own) telling her that she will regret having the baby and her life as she knows it will stop, she is too young etc etc. She is not a drinker and she is happy to stay at home she is certainly no party animal and she is mature in her attitude. Her dad kicked her out late on Saturday night and she had to walk to her mums (12 miles away) he did not allow her to take her mobile and there are some very dodgy lanes, bridges and industrial estates she had to go through to get to her mothers. This is the 3rd time she has been kicked out but has not been allowed to take her baby with her. Legally she is still the mother (although as soon as her son was born they where putting a claim for child benefit and ctc.) and she has told her mother that she wants her son and does not want her dad or step mum to legally adopt she said she has always wanted to keep her son but was scared to tell them as they said they will do nothing for her and would not even have her in the house if they didnt get the baby. Her mum has spoken to her ex husband and his wife and they have confirmed this. He threw her out and she went for him when he wouldnt let her take her son so she is now getting done for assault. Then went away to work leaving the baby with his wife.

Where do they go from here. This girl is breaking her heart that she cannot get her baby

adamantine

i would contact the police if i was her. they are keeping a mother from her child!

rogerblack

kazz3105 wrote: »

Legally she is still the mother (although as soon as her son was born they where putting a claim for child benefit and ctc.)

I'm unsure that the grandparents are not guilty of kidnapping, for one.

The legal requirements for being able to deny a parent access to their child are quite involved, and social services (as I understand it) would absolutely have to be involved.

The nuclear option would be to accuse the grandparents of kidnap, but this is of course going to cause major issues.

McKneff

The police and social services need to be involved. They have no right to keep this baby, they have no rights at all.

If she needs advice tonight, ring the police tonight. They will listen.

They could actually be committing a criminal offence.

Bless her, she is almost a baby herself and they think she will be easy to bully,

They will only bully her if she and her mum allows them to.

kazz3105_2

Thankyou. I have just rang her and told her what the forum has said, they are now looking at getting the police to go with her tomorrow to get her son and his equipment. She is scared but as she has said it will be lovely to hold her son and call him hers.
Thankyou again. Will keep you informed.

wannabedebtfree_2

If she wants her baby then the law is on her side, if no legal guardianship papers or adoption papers have been signed then they need to hand the baby back!

I hope it all works out for the best.

wannabedebtfree_2

kazz3105 wrote: »

Thankyou. I have just rang her and told her what the forum has said, they are now looking at getting the police to go with her tomorrow to get her son and his equipment. She is scared but as she has said it will be lovely to hold her son and call him hers.
Thankyou again. Will keep you informed.

I don't know these people but they don't sound nice....they wouldn't do a moonlight flit with the baby would they? It has been known to happen. Or do you think they will be assuming that she will just roll over and let them keep the baby and therefore feel safe in their warm home while they allowed a vulnerable teen to walk the streets? :mad:

kazz3105_2

No you are right in your second guess they are safe and warm at home. There are no legal papers or guardianship issues as yet. She has just told me that she doesnt care who is involved (eg socal services) as long as she can have her baby with her.

McKneff

I feel for her, I was 17 when I had my first baby, think you know it all, but looking back I was really just very vulnerable.
Ive grown since lol, give her and your sister all the uspport you can.

Keep us updated please.

paddedjohn

kazz3105 wrote: »

Advise for my sister in law please. Quick background, Divorced her first husband over 15 years ago, was happy for the 2 children to stay with him as he had a much more stable life, the kids would have had to change schools and areas they both decided that they didnt want the kids upset even more than they where. Every thing was going great and the kids went regularly to see their mum. Dad met a new woman, everything went t**s up. Fast forward to August this year, daughter pregnant had baby and while she was pregnant her dad and 'step' mum railroaded her into giving them the baby ( unfortunatly for her step mum she cannot have children of her own) telling her that she will regret having the baby and her life as she knows it will stop, she is too young etc etc. She is not a drinker and she is happy to stay at home she is certainly no party animal and she is mature in her attitude. Her dad kicked her out late on Saturday night and she had to walk to her mums (12 miles away) he did not allow her to take her mobile and there are some very dodgy lanes, bridges and industrial estates she had to go through to get to her mothers. This is the 3rd time she has been kicked out but has not been allowed to take her baby with her. Legally she is still the mother (although as soon as her son was born they where putting a claim for child benefit and ctc.) and she has told her mother that she wants her son and does not want her dad or step mum to legally adopt she said she has always wanted to keep her son but was scared to tell them as they said they will do nothing for her and would not even have her in the house if they didnt get the baby. Her mum has spoken to her ex husband and his wife and they have confirmed this. He threw her out and she went for him when he wouldnt let her take her son so she is now getting done for assault. Then went away to work leaving the baby with his wife.

Where do they go from here. This girl is breaking her heart that she cannot get her baby

Im sorry but this just doesnt add up, the daughter (babys mum) is getting done for attacking her father because he is keeping her kid from her and the police just stood by and let the father keep the kid? i think there is a lot more to this than you have been told.

kazz3105_2

No the dad didnt call the police until she had gone, (he is away working, he is a total sh** we all know him from old) he said nothing about the baby his daughter was at the local police station today having finger prints took and being interviewed. She explained what and why it happened, they suggested that when so goes to get her property to ask the police to attend to reduce the risk from her step mother and get her son back. I am supporting her as much as i can and she will get all of the support that she needs.