Employed in property? Your help

lynzpower

well if anyone wants me to sell thier house do give me a yell! although you might want to wait a few motnhs till Ive been trained!

Suddenly after hearing about how the commission and wage structure is rigged up, Im less dowen on "lazy" eas. If Im lazy and achieve no exchanges my wage would make your eyes bleed.

clutton_2

congrats ! well done u!!!

Tassotti

Congratulations Lynz.

Was one of the questions you asked "Do you have internet access, as I need my hourly fix of MSE"

Tass

Alan_M_2

Well done, I hope you enjoy it.

ds1980

and obviously paying me to live in a overcrowded house!

Alan_M_2

prudryden wrote:

I always wondered that as well - but they seem very happy and have been doing jobs for me for three years now. I know they have many Victorian houses they do work on, which they charge for the job - which is a lot more than the hourly rate I pay. They just finished building wardrobes for me and they are fantastic - 1/3 the price I could have bought them for.

Whilst I have no inherent problem with immigrants per se, this has created a non level playing field and is contributing to the current level of static (or very low) wage inflation.

The majority of Poles who come and work here will be paid cash, won't declare any income and won't contribute to the countries coffers in any way other than what they consume.

For the companies that do employ these guys legitimately, they have a high turnover in staff, the average worker will stay here long enough to earn his tax free allotted amount of money for the relevant tax year or only slightly more, then on leaving the country, all the income tax that has been paid on his behalf is refunded to him. Of course, because He's on such a meagre income He's entitled to tax credits, family benefits etc, the same as any other low paid EU (UK) worker is. Hmm that's jolly nice of us....they can come over work tax free, legally claim benefits and then remove all that money from the country, take it back home where it's worth substantially more.

There is nothing illegal about this at all (except all the cash work that occurs of course). It is a good example of a free market economy at work...well kind of.

Do I have a problem with it? Yes I do, and the problem I have is this:-

I choose to run a legitimate business in the UK complying with UK employments and tax laws and having to pay a reasonable salary to any employees on which they can live.

I'm having to compete with businesses that legally can manouvre around these regulations and therefore do not have the fixed overheads that I do. That is not a free market economy, it is not a level playing field.

The thing is, it's been largely restricted to blue collar industries, and that's fine as it doesn't effect the increasingly large middle class of the UK (the nimby's - that's not in my back yard!), but that's changing drastically, and if you think Poland entering the EU has caused a stir, Romania and Bulgaria entered at the beginning of January, but the poo will really hit the fan as and when Turkey are allowed in.

So we'll have an influx of office workers, IT workers, doctors, dentists, solicitors, accountants, etc etc....

All entering the country legally, all prepared to work for half the income you currently work for.....what do you think this will do to the economy here?

mystic_trev

Congrats Lynz - hope it all works out well!

Doozergirl

:j Brilliant! Congratulations Girl! :j

scorpio_princess

Alan_M wrote:

Whilst I have no inherent problem with immigrants per se, this has created a non level playing field and is contributing to the current level of static (or very low) wage inflation.

The majority of Poles who come and work here will be paid cash, won't declare any income and won't contribute to the countries coffers in any way other than what they consume.

For the companies that do employ these guys legitimately, they have a high turnover in staff, the average worker will stay here long enough to earn his tax free allotted amount of money for the relevant tax year or only slightly more, then on leaving the country, all the income tax that has been paid on his behalf is refunded to him. Of course, because He's on such a meagre income He's entitled to tax credits, family benefits etc, the same as any other low paid EU (UK) worker is. Hmm that's jolly nice of us....they can come over work tax free, legally claim benefits and then remove all that money from the country, take it back home where it's worth substantially more.

There is nothing illegal about this at all (except all the cash work that occurs of course). It is a good example of a free market economy at work...well kind of.

Do I have a problem with it? Yes I do, and the problem I have is this:-

I choose to run a legitimate business in the UK complying with UK employments and tax laws and having to pay a reasonable salary to any employees on which they can live.

I'm having to compete with businesses that legally can manouvre around these regulations and therefore do not have the fixed overheads that I do. That is not a free market economy, it is not a level playing field.

The thing is, it's been largely restricted to blue collar industries, and that's fine as it doesn't effect the increasingly large middle class of the UK (the nimby's - that's not in my back yard!), but that's changing drastically, and if you think Poland entering the EU has caused a stir, Romania and Bulgaria entered at the beginning of January, but the poo will really hit the fan as and when Turkey are allowed in.

So we'll have an influx of office workers, IT workers, doctors, dentists, solicitors, accountants, etc etc....

All entering the country legally, all prepared to work for half the income you currently work for.....what do you think this will do to the economy here?

Excellent post Alan (BTW congrats Lynz- you'll be fab EA i'm sure!)

My industry is suffering because of this too (transport and haulage) - how can we compete with people willing to work for a lot less money? I'm the same as you - I have no problem with immigration on the whole, but there needs to be some kind of order because the way its going at the moment, a lot of people will lose their jobs and the economy will be damaged. But, like you say, the nimbys don't see this - they don't have to witness being undercut on a daily basis. Free market? Not when the indigenous Brits are suffering because of government policy. We can't save the whole world, we also can't give the whole world a job and a better standard of living. As a relatively rich country with a strong economy, we can afford to do our bit, but there needs to be more restrictions than there are now.

Thing is, if you don't buy into this whole 'immigration is great for the economy' mantra, you're called a heartless Daily Mail reading racist bigot - which if you knew me couldn't be further from the truth!

Pobby

Hi lynz.Well done.Wether there is a house crash or not people will always need to rent.Hope you enjoy it.