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  • Sazbo
    Sazbo Posts: 4,617 Forumite
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    blinky wrote:
    Hi all,

    Only poping in to show I'm still alive. Been with 'R' all week and will be until Monday

    Big hugs to all. Will try and catchup next week.

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    Hi Blinky :wave: nice to see you, was thinking about you earlier. Hope you had a good week with R.

    Take care hun
    Love, Sazx
    4 May 2010 <3
  • Sazbo
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    stenny wrote:
    ethel what an awful situation again, I hope the SW takes notes of what DD does.
    I think it's about time once and for all that they get this all dealt with instead of having you running round in circles attending meetings that end up with a negative outcome!
    They are the supposed professionals, so why is it taking them so long to get DD the aquired help needed?

    Can't you arrange a meeting with your local MP and discuss the situation to see if he can push things along?
    :A
    I totally agree stenny. That's a really good idea meeting MP though.
    stenny wrote:
    Sazbo, whats this? a night on the tiles?
    Are you drinking the red bull today? :rotfl:
    Hope you had a gr8 time.

    :A

    Have a gr8 weekend everyone

    xxx
    Yes hun, it does happen occasionally!:D LOL I think I had too good a time! To the extent that I haven't even made it out of the house yet today! :o If I had red bull in the house believe me I'd be drinking it :rotfl:

    How's you hun? Still busy with the house?

    Sazzyxxx
    4 May 2010 <3
  • EthelBloggs
    EthelBloggs Posts: 2,740 Forumite
    I'm back for a bit..

    Support worker came.. only had 2 hours with her, they were sposed to increase it. Anyway.. she's wrote a big report and also rang her boss for advice... all this stuff gets noted so hopefully....

    daughter has given me the choice of letting her cut or taking a double dose of meds so she can sleep til tomorrow.. neither is an option so I've got to watch her like a hawk now :/ As it is she's managed to reopen a lot of old wounds, set fire to her brother's bed and break almost every drinking glass in the house by throwing a full coffee table across the room :eek:

    Not a good day in the bloggs house :(
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  • beer2006
    beer2006 Posts: 1,987 Forumite
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    Wow Ethel, I'm way out of my league with this one....

    Just sending you good vibes and saying I hope it gets better somehow.
    “Pleasure of love lasts but a moment, pain of love lasts a lifetime.”
  • Hi all, rung Morrisons yesterday, no jobs at the minute but they asked me to put my application in writing so I did :)

    Hopefully they will be impressed with it, had a 12 hour sleep, feel a lot better now Im back to sleeping properly. Interview/assesment at HBOS on Monday then Barclays on Weds, hopefully positive news from either of those. Supposed to be getting an interview with Abbey too, but got a letter today saying that I wasnt succesful despite being told when I rung them midweek that I had an interview. Strange. Ill give them a ring i think.
  • Sazbo
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    Ethel hun I'm back, just had to pop out for a few things. Are things any quieter at home this evening?

    Sazbomberxxx
    4 May 2010 <3
  • Tiff_2
    Tiff_2 Posts: 3,046 Forumite
    Hi ethel!:hello:
    Mornin Tiffster :)
    I seriously do need a break.. I'm exhausted.. the neighbour knows all the circumstances.. we've been neighbours and friends for 13 years, but just lately she's getting awful moany.
    It's understandable in a way hun, but with her suddenly becoming moany, it makes me wonder if something's not going wrong for her? Maybe if you get chance hun, pop over for coffee and tell her that you're on the verge of having DD being moved to live somewhere else. That might reassure her.

    I don't get dla, just child tax credit and child benefit. I did have appointment with a CAB worker, we filled half the form in and made another appointment which i wasn't able to keep and i've just left it since then.
    Ahem!soapbox.gif;)
    You should be more than entitled imho for DLA for DD. Order another form hun asap and book an appointment with CAB or just as good with DIAL. You did the right thing in going to the experts - I always suggest that because you have to be sooo meticulous with your wording.
    You may even qualify yourself hun as you're on ads and have been so badly affected that you've had to stop studying. It never hurts to try.;) Just don't leave it any longer hun.

    Don't worry tiffy.. I appreciate everything you do for me and I know you post when you can :)
    I know you do sweetheart.hug.gif If I could type as fast as I think, I'd be able to help everyone quicker.;)

    Okay hun, let's see what I can remember...:rolleyes: Having looked on the sites, they all seem to back up what I've said so far.

    - As I told you angel, social services do have a legal duty of care to you, your DS and your DD. They have to consider the whole family unit. They are able to access a whole range of services for you hun, including counselling and even respite breaks away for you and DS. Some areas will pay for the whole break and/or they'll have places at holiday parks/seaside that they hold in reserve for families in need. Ask them about all these things hun. They do not usually volunteer this info, which is a shame because they're supposed to be there to help families!:rolleyes:

    - The fact that facilities/funding/time may be stretched is their problem not yours. They are legally obliged in their duty of care.

    - Contact your local mental health clinic hun, asap again, and ask for the name and phone number of your local Mental Health Advocate. If they don't know, you could ask your psychiatrist or look it up on the MIND website or even google your heart out.;)
    Mental Health Advocates are like walking miracles!:A
    They can represent a patient in all areas of their life (housing, school, work, benefits, make complaints, you name it!) and make sure the patient is getting all that they are entitled to, to advise you on what help is there, to make sure that the person is being fairly treated and to advise you on your rights concerning the legal aspects of mental health.
    NOTE: THEY ARE NOT LAWYERS OR SOLICITORS - THEY CANNOT REPRESENT YOU IN A COURT OR LEGAL PROCEEDINGS - THEY ADVISE .
    The advocate can accompany you to appointments, meetings or panels if you request it and can speak on your behalf. They are real experts in this particular field hun. They'll tell you what the other agencies should have told you.;)

    - As DD is a minor by age still, they will generally still apply the same mental health rules to her as they would to an adult. There are guidelines however, that say an adolescent should not be accommodated in an adult's facility for obvious reasons.

    I've found these details from MIND, CAB, DIAL and personal experience hun. I am not a professional in any way and you will be on the right track with the Mental Health Advocate, who will be able to quote chapter and verse too. Don't forget the numbers and info I gave you on page 107?:rolleyes: I think. Work through them slowly and as needs must. There's a lot of support out there for you hun - and on here.hug.gif Hope this helps angel - just let me know if you need a Tiff letter!:D Huge hugs hun.hug.gif
    Much Love,
    Tiff xxx


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  • Tiff_2
    Tiff_2 Posts: 3,046 Forumite
    Hi ethel!
    Obviously I posted before I saw this post from you.:o
    [quote=EthelBloggs]I'm back for a bit..
    Support worker came.. only had 2 hours with her, they were sposed to increase it. Anyway.. she's wrote a big report and also rang her boss for advice... all this stuff gets noted so hopefully....
    What did her boss say hun? Don't tell me, they'll get back to you, call them if you need them?

    daughter has given me the choice of letting her cut or taking a double dose of meds so she can sleep til tomorrow.. neither is an option so I've got to watch her like a hawk now :/ As it is she's managed to reopen a lot of old wounds, set fire to her brother's bed and break almost every drinking glass in the house by throwing a full coffee table across the room :eek:
    Okay hun, now you know I say this with lots of love.
    I would suggest taking her to A&E now hun, before all the drunks and fighters get there. They will be able to sedate her safely and hopefully this time prevent any sh. Your DD is at risk to herself and to others. This is too big for you to handle angel - but I know you know this hun and you agreed.

    If you can't get her to the hospital, call the police out. Make sure they all understand that she is being violent and has started a fire. As her parent, you have the right to ask the hospital to detain her for her own safety.

    They are responsible for where they put her hun - hopefully this time it won't be on a regular medical ward! A good idea would be a side room with a nurse on constant 24 hour watch, which is what a mental health facility would provide - she would not be left alone for a minute.

    The duty gp could come out to you and if they agree that there is danger, they can arrange for transport to the hospital and put the on-call duty psychiatrist available in every area on standby.

    I'm sure you know all this inside and out hun, so sorry if I've stated the obvious. I'm glad the 'regular' care team are finally looking at long term care away from home for DD - we both thought that would be the best for DD didn't we? Anyway angel, Tiff'll shut up now 'cos the last thing you need is me distracting you. Take care hun - thinking of you.hug.gif
    Much Love,
    Tiff xxx
    "If you realized how powerful your thoughts are, you would never think a negative thought." ~ by Peace Pilgrim.
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  • Tiff_2
    Tiff_2 Posts: 3,046 Forumite
    Hi guys!:hello:
    Sorry it's a case of a pit-stop again.:o

    Hi sazzy hun!hug.gif
    We keep missing each other this week, don't we hun?:rolleyes: You're a carp psychic!:D Will pm you tomorrow angel. I really have been thinking about you hun.:A Take care angel.hug.gif

    Hi barcode!hug.gif
    I'm sorry barcode for saying I'd get back to you tonight hun. Life just got in the way. It'll be even more frustrating to you when I say that, I can truly empathise with you and that I do have a couple of ideas for you to follow up. Don't give up angel.hug.gif

    Hi beer!hug.gif
    Hmmm - you're another case of still waters running deep. Something's obviously had a serious nibble at you this week angel, bless you. You're on tomorrow's list too!;) :D Take care angel.hug.gif

    Hi l-t-d!hug.gif
    I heard all that l-t-d! Hun - I lived in the USA for a few years and I KNOW the way to the Hoover Dam!!!:D Don't you make me come over there now!;)
    You are barred from going near a phone until Wednesday - oh, and you're grounded!:rotfl: :rolleyes:

    To the rest of the family, too numerous to mention right now but each one always thought of, look after yourselves tonight guys and hopefully, we'll all catch up tomorrow. Huge Tiff hugs!hug.gif
    Much Love,
    Tiff xxx
    "If you realized how powerful your thoughts are, you would never think a negative thought." ~ by Peace Pilgrim.
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    'You just got Tiffed!' ;)
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  • EthelBloggs
    EthelBloggs Posts: 2,740 Forumite
    Thanks you both.. she's ok for the moment, got a friend over so she's occupied :/

    The support worker's boss has his hands kind of tied because he's an agency that the social services use the services of so he can only do what he's commisioned to do last thing on a friday. He is very nice and always apologetic tho, lol

    Tiffy, whenever I have to take her to A&E cos of self harm, we're always put in a special room with nothing in it but a seat and a camera... bit like a cell really and she's always dealt with very quickly... Our local A&E are mostly fantastic and it's really sad that they know us by name now, as do most of the local coppers :o When they admit her it's usually to the childrens ward, they do give her a side room and they watch her as much as possible but you can imagine how busy they are.

    Tiffy, sorry to be a moron but what is DIAL? I know you keep mentioning it but i dunno who/what they are. Mind were good in as much as they gave me some numbers to try, but none of them were helpful, but they did make it clear that that's all they could do.

    I wish I could say that you're giving me info that i already have tiffy, but unfortunately you're not.. I feel like I've been left very high and dry with all this, all I've been told to do is call 999 if somethign happens that I can't cope with, so anything you tell me is a great help :)

    Thanks again for caring.. I do feel very isolated in all this and there's a limit to what i can expect my mum to do, she's nearly 80 :eek:

    As to the neighbour.. I tend to avoid her lately as she seems to be complaining about anything and everything.. and she goes on and on and on and on and she brings me even lower down than I already am :/

    I'll be around on here cos I'm just down the hall from where daughter is with her friends so I can keep an eye without being obtrusive if you know waht i mean ;)
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