rottweiler attack - police useless........

Oliver14

vax2002 wrote: »

All this any dog can bite, yes it can, but I have never heard of anyone dying from a jack Russell attack, dozens of children have been killed by rottweilers..

I suggest if you're going to contribute to debates like this you don't make up statistics just to scaremonger. On average 1 person (both adult and child) die a year due to a dog attack. So your ridiculous conclusion that Rottweillers have killed dozens of children not only is worng but absolutely ridiculous.

The last person to die from a dog attack in the UK was attacked by a Pitbull type.

magoogy wrote: »

absolutely fuming - a friends little girl got attacked by a rottweiler last night - shes 3 years old and was playing in the garden making lots of noise as little ones do...her mum was sat on the bench watching her.......suddenly next doors rottweiler jumped over the fence and grabbed the girl - luckily her dad was in the kitchen with her 2 uncles doing some building work and ran out and managed to grab the little girl before the dog did any damage apart from breaking the skin - they had to really batter at the dog to get her free though.............

the police came but refuse to take the dog away, saying their little girl mustve been annoying it and its gone for her as its usually a friendly dog...........this doesnt sound right to me as arent rotweilers on the danger dog list?.......surely, if anything they should be now made to secure the dog in better so it wont be able to get out again?

any advice as to who my friend can now talk to about this would be appreciated thanks - shes a quivering wreck this morning and is saying she wants to move but, that isnt feasible - and she has a new baby due any day so, obviously she feels likes shes trapped......

thanks so much...

I'm sorry this story must have more to it. The police don't just ignore dog attacks. It sounds more like some urban myth.

I would love to here the complete unbiased story from all sides because from what is written it will probably be a lot different.

RHemmings

Oliver14 wrote: »

I suggest if you're going to contribute to debates like this you don't make up statistics just to scaremonger. On average 1 person (both adult and child) die a year due to a dog attack. So your ridiculous conclusion that Rottweillers have killed dozens of children not only is worng but absolutely ridiculous.

I'm not a dog-owner, so I'm uninvolved here. But I did a quick google to see if there was any evidence that Rottweilers were dangerous. I found the following links.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1574037/Mothers-tribute-to-son-killed-by-Rottweiler.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1574037/Mothers-tribute-to-son-killed-by-Rottweiler.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/03/four-year-old_killed_by_rottwe.html
http://digitaljournal.com/article/228229
http://fourleggedfriendsandenemies.blogspot.com/2011/08/child-killed-by-rottweiler.html

Looking at the tables in this page, it seems that Rottweilers are a common breed involved in fatal dog attacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States

Here is more information about dangerous dogs, UK-specific. Not Rottweiler specific. http://www.ukandspain.com/dangerous-dogs/

I personally don't believe that dogs should be banned etc, but I'm concerned that people seem to be minimising the potential danger from dogs such as Rottweilers. Personally I believe that those owners who believe that their dogs are loving "softies" who wouldn't hurt a fly are burying their head in the sand, and quite possibly the type of people who don't take adequate precautions to stop their dogs ever attacking someone.

irishsymphony

I'll return to this thread later to post pictures of these big, dangerous dogs who shouldn't ever be allowed around children.

For now, I'll say this - blame the deed, not the breed. YES the dog should have been put to sleep if it broke skin. YES the owners should be made to pay for what they did - both by losing their dog, fixing the fence, learning their lesson.

HOWEVER. Don't blame the breed of Rottweilers. Being someone who's involved in animal rescue, I too have met / known too many to count Rottweilers. Tbh, it's often the Rottweilers, GSD, & Pitbull 'types' that I underestimate - in rescue, these are often lovely, willing, eager-to-please creatures. I did a walk for Battersesa Dogs Home before and was given a erscue Rottweiler to walk, he was handsome, playful, loving and not a bit of an issue with him when walking him through the park with 100+_ other canines.

it's the media, and misguided, on-occasion ignorant people that spread slander like this "oh all rottweilers are vicious" "german shepherds are evil" "pit bulls will rip your children apart" who GIVE the breeds this reputation. Just like "all small dogs are snappy" - ha. Not at all! As I said, I'll return with photos to help dispute .. the more people that learn the 'true way of viewing issues' the better, surely!

Pippy1969

Well said RHemmings...

I also am not a dog owner. But I do however work around guide dogs for the blind on a daily basis and I love them!

HOWEVER, you are absolutely right. May dog owners claim that their child flesh-tearing animals to be big softies. I have heard in recent years of 2 serious attacks involving Rottweiler's in the U.K. One where a postman lost his arm and then the dreadful attack in Southend-on-Sea with the 7-year old boy. In both cases, the dogs may never attacked anyone before. I bet up until that point the owners claimed those dogs to be big softies!!!

Such irresponsible owners are living in denial at the expense of the safety of everyone around them.

Now I will say it again, I love dogs to some extent, but these dogs do not exist through natural selection, they are bred by people who think they can take animals out of nature and train them to be the pets they want them to be.

I am sure many so-called dog lovers will reject my views and reply with gnashing teeth because they don't want to be told they're wrong.

Finally, before anyone jumps on the animal-rights bandwagon, remember you gave up on animal rights the day you started keeping animals in captivity.


I also notice that it is only people involved or own dogs that will not accept this reality!

pulliptears

Pippy1969 wrote: »

Finally, before anyone jumps on the animal-rights bandwagon, remember you gave up on animal rights the day you started keeping animals in captivity.

I'd be interested to learn when Rottweilers were last free roaming

Pippy1969

pulliptears wrote: »

I'd be interested to learn when Rottweilers were last free roaming

Agree absolutely, I was just trying to nip-in-the-bud those that resort to animal rights as an excuse to priorities their pets rights over the safety of others.

Having said , I feel safe to say man didn't "create" the first Rottweiler breed so they must have come from somwhere in their natural form. But that's kind of the point I was trying to make with respect to so-called animal rights.

mumps

pulliptears wrote: »

People are defending dogs because ultimately its NOT the dogs fault, its the fault of the stupid OWNER.

That is not always true. I have owned 7 dogs over the years and one was bad, I loved him and he was bright and intelligent and usually very well behaved. Every now and then he woud go mad, I don't know how else to describe it, as a pup we hoped that with training and love he would change. I got a nasty bite trying to separate him from my other dog when he attacked him. I had to admit defeat and have him put down a few weeks later, I couldn't take the chance of him hurting a child and so I couldn't let him off the lead as he got bigger as he just couldn't be trusted.

Maybe you have never met a dog that is mad or bad but they do exist.

On particular breeds I knew a child who was bitten on the face by his grandmother's Yorkshire Terrier. A very beautiful child was left with a scarred face, drooping eye and partial paralysis of facial muscles. I don't trust any dog around children and have brought my children up to love and respect dogs but to always be wary.

MackemPunk

Pippy1969 wrote: »

Agree absolutely, I was just trying to nip-in-the-bud those that resort to animal rights as an excuse to priorities their pets rights over the safety of others.

Having said , I feel safe to say man didn't "create" the first Rottweiler breed so they must have come from somwhere in their natural form. But that's kind of the point I was trying to make with respect to so-called animal rights.

Well man did create every modern dog breed, the original wild dogs decided to live along side human camps and the braver dogs came closer and got food scraps(old bones etc), so their pups were brought up to co-exist with humans who welcomed the dogs as having them around was a prehistoric alarm system.

Eventually man started breeding dogs for different purposes and thats where different breeds come from, but Humans didn't 'capture or 'enslave' dogs, the dogs chose to be human companions to help their survival.

anxious_mum

I must be one of those 'chavs' that everyone is talking about. I grew up with a Staffordshire Bull Terrior, he was my best friend and never showed a nasty streak to anyone, apart from the bloke that tried to grab me when I was walking home one night. Caesar stepped in, and the bloke ran a mile. When I got married, we had a Rottweiler as a puppy, closely followed by a rescue Rottie. They were the best dogs I ever knew. Having said that, all of my dogs were very well trained, and were never left with young children. I believe in spending time with your dog, training is of the utmost importance, just so that they know who is boss.

I am now the proud owner of a Jack Russell puppy called Jasper, so I fit the bill well and truly for keeping danger dogs. I'm just hoping, after all of those terrible dogs I have owned who never said boo to a goose, that I may have a guard dog now who will bark when someone knocks at the door. All 3lbs of him!

I hope the little girl is OK. Any dog that attacks should be put down, in my opinion.

RHemmings

anxious_mum wrote: »

I must be one of those 'chavs' that everyone is talking about. I grew up with a Staffordshire Bull Terrior, he was my best friend and never showed a nasty streak to anyone, apart from the bloke that tried to grab me when I was walking home one night. Caesar stepped in, and the bloke ran a mile. When I got married, we had a Rottweiler as a puppy, closely followed by a rescue Rottie. They were the best dogs I ever knew. Having said that, all of my dogs were very well trained, and were never left with young children. I believe in spending time with your dog, training is of the utmost importance, just so that they know who is boss.

This is how I believe dogs should be handled. Do the best you can to train them properly, but remember that there is still the potential for danger.