Terrified at Employment Tribunal

viktory

You're entitled to your opinion - as am I. Handily, I don't give a toss what you think

no-oneknowsme

viktory wrote: »

You're entitled to your opinion - as am I. Handily, I don't give a toss what you think

Thats excellent...im sooooooo pleased to hear that as I wouldnt want you caring about anyone other than yourself ......

Suppose whilst your on here getting on peoples wick your giving that poor...poor Husband of yours a seconds peace!

The poor Man has my fully sympathy

Jarndyce

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

Your definition of a "decent" explanation and that of the OP may differ....You have to bear in mind that you have already been through an employment tribunal process with your Husband (all be it that it was settled before the actual hearing) but this is all new to the OP.

She held the thought as many people do , that she was unable to lodge a claim to the tribunal office until her appeal decision had been delivered to her by her ex employer. To me this sounds like a "decent" enough explanation and now that the OP knows that she was able to go ahead with her claim whilst awaiting the appeal decision I am sure that she will bear this fact in mind for future reference.

You have to remember Viktory that just because you know these things not EVERYONE knows them.

Sometimes the sarcasm drips from your posts and makes me wonder why you bother to lower yourself to making replies to posts when from your tone all you want to do is have a go at and belittle the OP.

OP , dont give up hope of your claim going the way you want it to. If you keep your head and just tell the truth you will be fine.

Whatever you think of viktory's style of posting (personally I prefer the no-frills, don't raise expectations approach) they are actually right.

The OP has given no explanation other than ignorance of the procedures to explain why they left it so late to apply. In my experience of Tribunals that will not be enough, but they may be lucky, lets wait and see. (ALthough if they are lucky I would expect an appeal).

no-oneknowsme

Jarndyce wrote: »

The OP has given no explanation other than ignorance of the procedures to explain why they left it so late to apply. ).

Maybe that is because the OP has no other reason TO offer!

She has already explained that she was awaiting the decision of her appeal.... She then goes on to say that a fault with the computer system further held up the application what other explanation is there to offer?

If someone doesnt know that the DO NOT have to wait on their appeal decision before they lodge their claim to the tribunal then thats it! They simply didnt know!

Seems like a perfectly detailed explanation to me.

vikki.f

I cannot offer any advice to that you have already received but wish you good luck.

A close friend went through a prolonged period of bullying having legitimately stood up to her manager over work time directive and bullying, he was exonerated by the company.
To eradicate the problem they had the cheek to offer her a demotion, which she refused, from then on everything she did was monitered and they found fault, they put her on a disciplinery while on holiday. When she returned she took advice and was told that she would have to attend in order to face the music, then only go to tribunal if they dismissed her.
She left (found a better paid higher position) and then still took 3 months to get her final wages...

They said they it was not bullying but robust management...

Be strong, employers are frowned upon if found guilty, not only if there the financial penalty but a presidence is set within the store / office that means that they have to review their policies.

Be strong

Jarndyce

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

Maybe that is because the OP has no other reason TO offer!

She has already explained that she was awaiting the decision of her appeal.... She then goes on to say that a fault with the computer system further held up the application what other explanation is there to offer?

If someone doesnt know that the DO NOT have to wait on their appeal decision before they lodge their claim to the tribunal then thats it! They simply didnt know!

Seems like a perfectly detailed explanation to me.

Yes, but the point is that without any other explanation the claim will fall. Not knowing is no excuse! All anyone is saying is that there is no reason why the ET should allow this claim and the only person to blame for that is the OP. It was their responsibility to familiarise themselves with the rules of the procedure they were invoking, they failed to do so and therefore, unless they got very lucky, the claim will fall, and they have nobody to blame but themselves.

Jarndyce

vikki.f wrote: »

I cannot offer any advice to that you have already received but wish you good luck.

A close friend went through a prolonged period of bullying having legitimately stood up to her manager over work time directive and bullying, he was exonerated by the company.
To eradicate the problem they had the cheek to offer her a demotion, which she refused, from then on everything she did was monitered and they found fault, they put her on a disciplinery while on holiday. When she returned she took advice and was told that she would have to attend in order to face the music, then only go to tribunal if they dismissed her.
She left (found a better paid higher position) and then still took 3 months to get her final wages...

They said they it was not bullying but robust management...

Be strong, employers are frowned upon if found guilty, not only if there the financial penalty but a presidence is set within the store / office that means that they have to review their policies.

Be strong

That is simply not true.

a) nobody frowns upon anyone after a case - all claims are treated on their own merits and begin and end at the Tribunal door.
b) ET decisions do not set legal precedents
c) very rarely does a Tribunal decision require an employer to review their policies (although the Equality Act does allow this in discrimination claims, it does not apply to ordinary unfair dismissal claims)
d) Unfair dismissal compensation awards do not penalise or punish the employer, they seek to compensate the claimant for their actual loss and no more (again, except in some discrimination claims).

Other than that - spot on!

no-oneknowsme

Jarndyce wrote: »

Yes, but the point is that without any other explanation the claim will fall. .

....And where have I said any different?

At this point NO-ONE can accurately guess whether the tribunal office will allow the claim to be accepted or not. My point in this thread is merely pointing out to Viktory that there was no need for her sarcasm regarding the OP as the OP DID offer her explanation as to why she filed the claim one day late.....

The OP offered her explanation , there wasnt any need for the sarcasm...we have to remember that the OP has no prior experience of the tribunal system .

viktory

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

there wasnt any need for the sarcasm

There was also no need for you to get unnecessarily (and incorrectly) personal either. Doesn't stop you though, does it? Glass houses and stones spring to mind...

Edited to add: Might I suggest that if you have further points to raise vis a vis my posting style that you take it to PM? It is unfair to the OP to take the thread off topic.

Jarndyce

no-oneknowsme wrote: »

....And where have I said any different?

This is my last contribution to this pointless semantic argument. Have the last word why don't you.

You said it was a "decent" explanation. It was not. It was an explanation, but not one that will carry any weight with any Tribunal, therefore I fail to see how on any scale of measurement it can be described as decent.

You seem to be suggesting that their ignorance somehow excuses them, it does not. If you are going to submit a claim of any type you check the rules first.