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What ATOS HCP thinks of claimants
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Well, Atoss are only obeying their orders, aren't they?:D
Hilarious, and scary thing is, when atos were asked by a commons committee why their company was feared and loathed by so many disabled people, the best they could come up with was it was the claimaints fault for not understanding what ATOS does/how the system works....
At least before, when caught out, people said they were only following orders, atos does not even have the guts to do that, they have to blame the claimaints![greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
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The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
and we should be deeply worried about that[/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)0 -
Hilarious, and scary thing is, when atos were asked by a commons committee why their company was feared and loathed by so many disabled people, the best they could come up with was it was the claimaints fault for not understanding what ATOS does/how the system works....
At least before, when caught out, people said they were only following orders, atos does not even have the guts to do that, they have to blame the claimaints!
Is it any wonder why one of the main criticisms that gets levelled at Atoss, is their absolute inability to justify its own actions.
In a lot of war crimes trials, the perpetrators weren't brain-dead automatons - there were lawyers, teachers, doctors (apt!), judges.
In other words, intelligent educated men who made a guilty sentence a foregone conclusion, because they were happy to talk about what they did at length - and were just too tunnel-visioned to see any wrong in the actions they took.
On the other hand, Atoss know full well what wrong they're doing - so naturally, they're shifty and evasive about it. Like Murdoch or Blair - bad products of their time.
Hopefully, the bubble will burst and it all catches up with them in the end.0 -
Is it any wonder why one of the main criticisms that gets levelled at Atoss, is their absolute inability to justify its own actions.
In a lot of war crimes trials, the perpetrators weren't brain-dead automatons - there were lawyers, teachers, doctors (apt!), judges.
In other words, intelligent educated men who made a guilty sentence a foregone conclusion, because they were happy to talk about what they did at length - and were just too tunnel-visioned to see any wrong in the actions they took.
On the other hand, Atoss know full well what wrong they're doing - so naturally, they're shifty and evasive about it. Like Murdoch or Blair - bad products of their time.
Hopefully, the bubble will burst and it all catches up with them in the end.
ATOS know, the government knows, the DWP knows, but still they continue onwards.
I also hope it catches up with them, and many people do some seriously well deserved time in jail over all this.
Pigs might fly too though.[greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
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The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
and we should be deeply worried about that[/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)0 -
I just want to make sure it`s this screen shot you reported.
Just for clarity you understand.
Public domain i would have thought.
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Ohhhh crikey, some of them don't even know what the word euthanasia means - and these people are meant to judge a claimant's fitness for work :eek:
I think Cameron and the condems should be asked for euthanasia packs so we can assist the government cuts by being dead.“How people treat you becomes their karma; how you react becomes yours.”0 -
Mind you this post is rather scary, reminds me of what the nazi's used to say about the worthless eaters etc, jews being underserving of all sorts of rights, once you get into the route of deserving and undeserving poor, your not far away from repeating history.
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I agree. Too many on here wanting to rule benefit claimants. You know I read a post yesterday which stated that only working families paying tax should be allowed to have children. Then such children would be brought up in good working family households (
Such children would so obviously have a disusting philistine imposed mindset. My response was what hapoens when the working people with children loose their jobs? (and more besides.)
Hell people out there even want to take away the right to have children altogether if you find yourself having to claim - such claimants must be sterilised! Oh and while we are at it, lets whip the disabled, make them graft, and give claimants some dry bread and water and make them beg for it.
There are some complete and utter bitter self serving extremely discompassionate uncaring people around with mindsets that beggar belief and they have an "I'm alright Jack so stuff you scum" attitude.
Such people are unable to put themselves in someone else's shoes and find empathy because they are so far up their own backsides their feet are not in view to put the other shoes on.
I am proud that people who know me see me as a caring, compassionate person. If I ever became that embittered I would need to ring for a euthanasia pack. Too many focus on the material, not realising how much it stunts spritual growth which in turn makes them draconian in nature.
It's pretty sad really, I would much rather be who I am and live each day in pain, than be ignorant to the plight and wellbeing of those in need. It starts in the home you know, and such people create bitterness in their children raising them with draconian attitudes without even realising it.
Look on the bright side though, their children can get jobs at Atos, they would fit in well :rotfl:“How people treat you becomes their karma; how you react becomes yours.”0 -
I agree. Too many on here wanting to rule benefit claimants. You know I read a post yesterday which stated that only working families paying tax should be allowed to have children. Then such children would be brought up in good working family households (
Such children would so obviously have a disusting philistine imposed mindset. My response was what hapoens when the working people with children loose their jobs? (and more besides.)
Hell people out there even want to take away the right to have children altogether if you find yourself having to claim - such claimants must be sterilised! Oh and while we are at it, lets whip the disabled, make them graft, and give claimants some dry bread and water and make them beg for it.
There are some complete and utter bitter self serving extremely discompassionate uncaring people around with mindsets that beggar belief and they have an "I'm alright Jack so stuff you scum" attitude.
Such people are unable to put themselves in someone else's shoes and find empathy because they are so far up their own backsides their feet are not in view to put the other shoes on.
I am proud that people who know me see me as a caring, compassionate person. If I ever became that embittered I would need to ring for a euthanasia pack. Too many focus on the material, not realising how much it stunts spritual growth which in turn makes them draconian in nature.
It's pretty sad really, I would much rather be who I am and live each day in pain, than be ignorant to the plight and wellbeing of those in need. It starts in the home you know, and such people create bitterness in their children raising them with draconian attitudes without even realising it.
Look on the bright side though, their children can get jobs at Atos, they would fit in well :rotfl:
And you don't even have to have intelligence to work there...or integrity...or dignity...or scruples...or manners...0 -
Ohhhh crikey, some of them don't even know what the word euthanasia means - and these people are meant to judge a claimant's fitness for work :eek:
Not good...I think Cameron and the condems should be asked for euthanasia packs so we can assist the government cuts by being dead.
That would be making it easier for them. Ironic - despite a deeply unpopular government being in before him, he still couldn't even overturn the vote.0 -
krisskross wrote: »I thought you said you didn't claim IB or ESA so what's with the 'us'?
I do think reproducing that screen shot is inflammatory and a gross intrusion btw. What about if that person decides to sue Martin for allowing it on his site?
The reproduction of the screen shots is to prove that it took place, and as is now known one site as gone altogether while the other has gone friends only. By reproducing the screen shots it saves the doubters saying you have no proof and all those who should act on the information provided that proof exists and claimant may refuse to be assessed by her or see the other even if he is only a glorified receptionist.Someone please tell me what money is0
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