Kerrygold softer butter - now with added olive oil!

bwims

antrobus wrote: »

I think the point is that for someone keen to throw about accusations of trolling left, right, and centre, he sure is behaving like a troll himself.

Hardly fair if you are referring to me, since I agreed with your earlier point that mySupermarket was wrong.

If you look up the definition of internet troll, you'll find that it is someone who attempts to disrupt normal on-topic discourse and tries to provoke an emotional response.

In the case referred to just now, viz "hardly the point", may I remind you that the on-topic discussion was the "apparent" but de facto substitution by default of the "softer butter" product with the "spreadable" poor substitute.

The fact that the OP was complaining that there was no longer a Kerrygold 100% butter spreadable option should have given a clue to the "apparently fatuous" suggestion that butter could be left out in a dish.

This was an option that could have been exercised all along without the need ever to buy a "softer" product. The fact that the product existed meant that people did not want to go to the trouble of warming their butter before use.

This is what I meant by "hardly the point".

I have never consciously attempted to be a troll, but I don't react well to what appears to be deliberately fatuous remarks, or people trying to score points, act sarcastically, intimidate etc.

I have been trying for some time to find a source of Kerrygold softer butter, and the OP inspired me to find out what was happening.

So far today I have emailed and telephoned Adams Food (who pretend to be Kerrygold.co.uk) put a lot of postings on their Facebook page, also Rachel Adams's FB page who is their "face" on tv, and I have created a FB page, because I take this problem very seriously.

If my upset at losing my favourite butter has led me to respond in a testy way to some people who had not intended to provoke me then I regret it.

I would hope that people reading this topic would be as concerned as I, but I get the impression that some people just browse through like an RSS feed look for snippets to comment on, perhaps making the odd daft comment. I haven't time for that.

So - I'm not a troll. Grumpy curmudgeon maybe - more than maybe.

adouglasmhor

bwims wrote: »

Hardly fair if you are referring to me, since I agreed with your earlier point that mySupermarket was wrong.

If you look up the definition of internet troll, you'll find that it is someone who attempts to disrupt normal on-topic discourse and tries to provoke an emotional response.

In the case referred to just now, viz "hardly the point", may I remind you that the on-topic discussion was the "apparent" but de facto substitution by default of the "softer butter" product with the "spreadable" poor substitute.

The fact that the OP was complaining that there was no longer a Kerrygold 100% butter spreadable option should have given a clue to the "apparently fatuous" suggestion that butter could be left out in a dish.

This was an option that could have been exercised all along without the need ever to buy a "softer" product. The fact that the product existed meant that people did not want to go to the trouble of warming their butter before use.

This is what I meant by "hardly the point".

I have never consciously attempted to be a troll, but I don't react well to what appears to be deliberately fatuous remarks, or people trying to score points, act sarcastically, intimidate etc.

I have been trying for some time to find a source of Kerrygold softer butter, and the OP inspired me to find out what was happening.

So far today I have emailed and telephoned Adams Food (who pretend to be Kerrygold.co.uk) put a lot of postings on their Facebook page, also Rachel Adams's FB page who is their "face" on tv, and I have created a FB page, because I take this problem very seriously.

If my upset at losing my favourite butter has led me to respond in a testy way to some people who had not intended to provoke me then I regret it.

I would hope that people reading this topic would be as concerned as I, but I get the impression that some people just browse through like an RSS feed look for snippets to comment on, perhaps making the odd daft comment. I haven't time for that.

So - I'm not a troll. Grumpy curmudgeon maybe - more than maybe.

Other than that I have nothing to add - good luck in finding a substitute - I grew up before such things existed and I remember well in my mum and dads every bit of bread was torn by cold hard butter as it was kept in the fridge door, but at both sets of grandparents a butter dish kept in a press made life a little easier.

I wish you well and no offense or baiting was intended, for me this would not be a problem but I am not arrogant and not quite doltish enough to feel no empathy - to quote Brendan Beehan "Every cripple has his own way of walking" .

(I also have a dairy intolerance so there may be a little jealousy lurking at the back of my mind - I sometime eat butter or cheese even though it makes me feel a bit wheezy and upsets my digestion).

Truce

Lip_Stick

bwims wrote: »

Has anyone gone to kerrygold.com? Their Irish customers don't have to suffer this indignity.

I have just sent the following to [EMAIL="idb@idb.ie"]idb@idb.ie[/EMAIL] (their contact address)

Hello,

It's nice to see that you are considering your Irish customers by continuing to make the softer butter available to them.

We in the UK, unfortunately are being fobbed off with an adulterated product, viz "Spreadable" with olive oil, as if this was a benefit!

You say on your irish web page:

"Why eat butter:
...
Butter does not contain any vegetable oils.
..."

To which I say: "Quite!" Is this rank hypocrisy or what?

If I wanted vegetable oils, I would eat margarine. Why are you lending your name to this travesty? Is it some sort of pressure by the BMA / UK Government axis?

You should know that there is now an alternative, which I will be publishing on your Facebook page: Loseley Summer Meadow naturally soft butter.

I'm afraid you are going to lose customers in the UK over this.

There's a world of difference between margarine, and butter with a smidgen of veg oil in it.

I can't stand the taste of marg at all, hate it, but Anchor spreadable I'm absolutely fine with, and that's the light version too. I can't really taste any difference.

DCFC79

bwims wrote: »

Well... it is so obvious that it hardly needs to be suggested, unless you think the OP and I are about ten years old.... then you follow it up with a suggestion (which is most irritating) that I might thank you for it! Of course, I realise that that's your signature, but if want to keep that as a signature, you probably ought to make suggestions that are worth thanking you for!

Got anything a bit more original? It can't be "set up a facebook page" cos I've just done it...

i wasnt expecting to be thanked for it at all, i never thought u and and the OP were 10 yo but does that have a bearing on anything.

Well good luck in getting kerrygold to reinstate it, use all of your powers of persuasion to get it done.

Do you think you can get it reinstated, it will require alot of people to do it. Wispa was brought back but alot of people supported it on facebook and i think it made the news.

antrobus

bwims wrote: »

I have never consciously attempted to be a troll, but I don't react well to..

Yup, that's about it.

By the way, what is it about butter that gets people so emotional? Whether it's about softer butter, or the price of butter, people seem to get really upset and argumentative about the topic in double quick time.

adouglasmhor

antrobus wrote: »

Yup, that's about it.

By the way, what is it about butter that gets people so emotional? Whether it's about softer butter, or the price of butter, people seem to get really upset and argumentative about the topic in double quick time.

Traumatised by a Last Tango in Paris type experience perhaps?

not you just people who get overwrought by it

DCFC79

antrobus wrote: »

Yup, that's about it.

By the way, what is it about butter that gets people so emotional? Whether it's about softer butter, or the price of butter, people seem to get really upset and argumentative about the topic in double quick time.

:T, i cant say ive got upset about something being withdrawn, i just learn to live with it.

preciousillusions

Yeah this was discussed in the butter prices thread. It's so annoying that they have done this. Surely must be to cut costs since you are now getting less pure butter for your money? Grr.

Occams_Razor_2

what is wrong with some of your people? jesus.

adouglasmhor

Occam/s_Razor wrote: »

what is wrong with some of your people? jesus.

I don't have any people. Or were you praying for an answer?