Done something stupid!

whiteroom184

[QUOTE=Jarndyce;45789272
You've just had 40 posts worth of people telling you you haven't committed any misconduct. Stop worrying about it!![/QUOTE]

thanks lol! Will try not to be such a sissy! Just you know when everything you touch seems to turn to S*it not gold?!:o

whiteroom184

Horace wrote: »

I think that rather than discussing leaving options with the employee it would have been better to have offered him some training to improve his job performance. Or you could have followed the disciplinary procedure and dismissed him/her that way. Stepping down is not the same as resigning - you have asked him to step down from the management role to return to the supervisory role and he was talking to his wife about it - it is not the same as saying here is my month's notice I am resigning. At the moment he is still in post and there is no vacancy.

Yes, you were quick off the mark to advertise the job when no vacancy exists. Jobcentres always tell candidates where they are being sent - it is never an anonymous option, placing vacancies with agencies is better for anonymity but agencies charge a fee.

I would look at your own contract to find out what it classes as gross misconduct because your employer could class your situation as gross misconduct as you have taken it upon yourself to advertise a vacancy that doesnt exist. Sorry if this sounds harsh.

You should be honest about what you have done and why, at the same time perhaps you could offer the aggrieved person more training so that they can perform in their role, maybe you also need some training on people management?

Thanks Horace

The person in question has 50 years experience in the role and stayed in post past retirement, initially this was fine. But as time has progressed, many issues have arisen since then which require him to manage his team better. When they were full time he could paper over these issues, but now they are part time, it is impossible and struggles to accept accountability for managing his team.

bluenoseam

So it's a case of someone working post retirement & no longer being able to do the job they're paid to do to a satisfactory end? Ultimately while you shouldn't have done it, you have done it, if you did so under reasonable thought that he was going to leave then i see no problems, better doing it now than waiting til he hands in his notice and boom you're under a 4 week timer to find someone to cover him, get them trained & be ready!

Felicity

Please be cautious about the amount of information that you have posted on here, this person / other colleagues would be easily able to identify themselves if they read this thread.

Please don't make the situation any worse.

Good luck in resolving it.

Mistral001

As others have said, you have done all you can. You did the right thing by being up front with HR etc. about it. Do not try to second guess what the outcome is going to be. In others words, do not panic.

ohreally

bluenoseam wrote: »

So it's a case of someone working post retirement & no longer being able to do the job they're paid to do to a satisfactory end?

We're informed the employee works part time - what we don't know is whether the employee is working under this term at the employers decision or his request. If the former, it could be argued that the employer is failing to support him - possibility even setting him up to fail due to lack of resources (time) to enable competent fulfilment.

There is not enough information to draw conclusions about the gentlemens culpability here.

whiteroom184

it was his decision to continue working part time.

AHAR

Pete111 wrote: »

This happens all the time. Did it myself the other month to get ahead of the recruitment curve before I made someone redundant

I'm confused. It sounds like you were recruiting someone to fill a redundant post?

CFC

Whiteroom, Pete is right. It does happen all the time up and down the country. Sometimes by genuine mistake, sometimes for gathering CVs, sometimes because the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing. It's not the end of the world and it's not GM either.

burrough76

whiteroom184 wrote: »

it was his decision to continue working part time.

Having read this thread its pretty clear to me WHITEROOM184 - You were left in a position that an employee went from full time to part time , only then to indicate they might leave

you were well within your responsability to make a choice to find suitable in the event that employee decided to leave his employment

FINALLY follow Petes advise to bring this situation to a conclusion

All the best