Done something stupid!

redcard

whiteroom184 wrote: »

I just cant believe i have been so stupid, it was a sheer moment of madness as have been suffering with depression

Not really sure that excuse is gonna fly.

whiteroom184

The employee is not going through any disciplinary process. He had a bi-annual review 2 weeks ago which hi-lighted areas which were not upto standard since becoming part time. He was in agreement with those. He asked me how i felt these issues could be resolved and i stated i felt that the issues could only be resolved by him either stepping down to an assistants role from a managers role or to become full time again. He stated that he would have this conversation with his wife and let me know. I am normally responsible for advertising supervisor positions.

jamespir

i think you should offer them something for the stress caused either weeks paid hol or a bonus in their wages

muddyl

I don't think it would come from constructive dismissal as you haven't dismissed them, said your going to or used this as a threat. For all they know it could be another position (as in extra staff).

With regards to having him out, if you have followed disciplinary procedures, given them warnings etc for transgressions that are in breach of his contract, it shouldn't be that hard. As long as you follow the rules and are not discriminatory, there's nothing wrong with "firing" him/her.

whiteroom184

redcard wrote: »

Not really sure that excuse is gonna fly.

Its not excuse, i fully accept i am in the wrong, i was just very stressed and wished to resolve the issue. Admittedly totally the wrong way!

Pete111

This happens all the time. Did it myself the other month to get ahead of the recruitment curve before I made someone redundant (though I used a discreet recruitment agency rather than the job centre)

The response to the business is ' I was trying to look after business continuity as it was very clear to me the employee was likely to be moving/be moved on - I'm annoyed with the job centre but my primary concern here was ensuring we were not short staffed.'

The response to the individual is. ' We had a relatively clear conversation why you indicated you could well move on. As a proactive manager I wanted to have CV's ready if you resigned. No-one has taken your job away and if you choose not to resign then that's fine. This does not change the fact there are performance issues that we would need to resolve if you chose to stay'

Remain calm.

muddyl

As has already been said, it was not wrong.
Just because you advertise a vacancy does not mean you were forcing him/her out, replacing them or any such thing. You were simply interviewing in the event you may need to take on another member of staff for whatever reason that may be.

Mistral001

Mojisola wrote: »

Isn't this the best explanation? It shows that you were thinking of the business.

I would go to my boss and explain everything.

I am not sure if "step down" is the same as leaving, but I assume that it is.

As far as I can see, there are only two things you can do when an employee comes to you like that. Ask for a resignation or ask him/her why he/she wants to leave and if there are things that need changing then work it out between the two of you.

There are other options but they are a bit old-fashioned and maybe not used much now. I used to work for a large firm some years ago and an employee went to the senior partner, the owner of the firm, with a similar problem. The senior partner listened and said nothing. After the employee had finsihed talking the senior partner excused himself from the room, went down to the accounts department and came back up with a cheque for one months pay in lieu of notice and told him to get out of the building immediately without going back to his desk and ring the next day to arrange with the secretary to collect his personal items sometime within a week.

Be up front about the whole thing. Perhaps the employee stating that he wanted to leave could amount to a verbal resignation in law, but I am not sure.

whiteroom184

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Thanks Pete, at the moment i am imagining all sorts of consequences and am bottoming out............

Pete111

whiteroom184 wrote: »

Thanks Pete, at the moment i am imagining all sorts of consequences and am bottoming out............

Worse case, you get a slap on the wrist for getting ahead of yourself. However, I think you should be able to argue that you were thinking of the business to your boss.

However, the employee may try to drum up a grievance or even an constructive dismissal claim. Your stock responses to this should be:

You were being proactive on the basis of the conversation you had with them and after theyy indicated they might leave (that last bit is important)

Noone has been interviewed (true?). This was a CV gathering excercise only in case they moved on as their role is important

You are happy to work with them on the issues discussed if they wish to stay. However changes to their performance are required

P