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New boiler - no building regs certificate
tyler80
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Searches on the house we are buying revealed no Building Regulations for the installation of the boiler which is around a year old.
My solicitor told me several weeks ago (in writing) that the sellers are going to provide a Gas Safety certificate in place of this which we were happy to accept so we did not arrange any further inspection.
On receving the paperwork yesterday no such certificate was present. Further enquiries today reveal that the vendors solicitor has decided not to provide it as it is not a legal requirement, pity nobody bothered to inform us of this fact.
My solicitors are now saying the onus is on the buyer to inspect services and satisfy themselves that they are safe and I should speak to the vendors (we have never met!). In my mind if the proper paperwork had been in place then I would have been satisfied with that, in the absence of the proper paperwork then I want a gas safety certificate. Is it unreasonable to expect the vendor to provide this in these circumstances? Or expecting the solicitors to do their blooming job properly?
Edit: they also mentioned in emails today that an indemnity policy would be provided although there is no information about this in our paperwork, a complete waste of time in my mind as I don't care about the building regulations approval only that it is safe!
My solicitor told me several weeks ago (in writing) that the sellers are going to provide a Gas Safety certificate in place of this which we were happy to accept so we did not arrange any further inspection.
On receving the paperwork yesterday no such certificate was present. Further enquiries today reveal that the vendors solicitor has decided not to provide it as it is not a legal requirement, pity nobody bothered to inform us of this fact.
My solicitors are now saying the onus is on the buyer to inspect services and satisfy themselves that they are safe and I should speak to the vendors (we have never met!). In my mind if the proper paperwork had been in place then I would have been satisfied with that, in the absence of the proper paperwork then I want a gas safety certificate. Is it unreasonable to expect the vendor to provide this in these circumstances? Or expecting the solicitors to do their blooming job properly?
Edit: they also mentioned in emails today that an indemnity policy would be provided although there is no information about this in our paperwork, a complete waste of time in my mind as I don't care about the building regulations approval only that it is safe!
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Its one of those "who wants it most" situations...
If it is important enough to you that you that they provide this paperwork that you'd pull out of the transaction if you don't get it, they should be providing it.
If it doesn't matter to them whether you pull out as they ain't going to provide it, you'll have to cough up yourself or walk away.
There is no right or wrong in these situations, just who is more desperate to hold their ground.0 -
You don't need a Buildings Reg certificate for a boiler and a Gas Safety certificate is only legally required if the property is rented. Ask the vendors if you can send a GasSafe engineer out to test the boiler or rely on the indemnity insurance.0
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Boiler installation should be registered with the local authority building regulations under the gas safe scheme. There is no such registration.0
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BitterAndTwisted wrote: »You don't need a Buildings Reg certificate for a boiler and a Gas Safety certificate is only legally required if the property is rented. Ask the vendors if you can send a GasSafe engineer out to test the boiler or rely on the indemnity insurance.
I understood new boiler installations should have a building regs cert - but unless the original installing engineer registers it with the council, it can be a real PITA to get one issued.
A safety check from a registered engineer tells you more about the safety of the boiler now than a building regs cert of installation ever will though.0 -
To be honest I'm more peed off with our solicitors, if they hadn't told us that a gas safety certificate would be provided we could have negotiated this point weeks ago.0
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It is only the money already spent that stops me walking away to be honest. Can't be bothered with the whole buying process anymore.
No idea how desperate to sell the vendors are, no chain, house is empty0 -
To be honest I'm more peed off with our solicitors, if they hadn't told us that a gas safety certificate would be provided we could have negotiated this point weeks ago.
They only passed on what they were told.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
No they didn't pass on what they were told. They told me it would be provided, they were then told it wouldn't be but I only found out yesterday when I couldn't find it in the big bundle of papers and queried it.0
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A building regulations certificate of compliance should have been issued when the boiler was installed. All this will show though is that the boiler was installed by a Gas Safe registered installer, not that it is currently working correctly.
You'd be better off paying for a CP12 certificate (landlords gas safety certificate) yourself now. They only cost about 30 quid and don't take long to do. It will give you peace of mind at least as it sounds fishy they are withholding documents.0 -
I wouldnt get too excited about it.
Just say you will pay for a GSR engineer to inspect/service and provide a report on the boiler and you will deduct it off the house cost.
If possible,find out what make of boiler it is and get the manufacturers eng to do that service/inspection.
Its no big deal,,,just solicitors crossing the TTTs and dotting the iiiiisFeudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..0
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