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Parking Eye Appeal Rejected...What Next???

Hi all, please help.

Parked in a P&D car park in Newquay within a marked disabled bay with a valid, clearly displayed Blue Badge. We weren't aware that we had to also pay for a ticket.

A week later received a Parking Eye fine stating that I had not paid for parking - so I immediately appealed with a copy of my badge as evidence.
They wrote back stating my appeal had been rejected and if I had more evidence to write back - so again with a copy of my disabled badge I wrote back. Their response was another rejection with absolutely no reasons - by this time I had looked into the Forums and people have been saying to ignore the letters.

Now I have received another final demand with the fine gone up from £60 to £90, and if I did not pay they would send baliffs. Worried that now I have written to them do I run an increased risk if I ignore the letters now. I was the driver but not the registered keeper.
Do I pay or do I run the risk of a CCJ?
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  • juno
    juno Posts: 6,553 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Your next step is to read the stickies and then ignore Parking Eye. You don't pay, but don't run any risk of getting a CCJ.
    Murphy's No More Pies Club #209

    Total debt [STRIKE]£4578.27[/STRIKE] £0.00 :j
    100% paid off :j

  • crazyguy
    crazyguy Posts: 5,495 Forumite
    I, tell em to do one !
  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    And it's not a FINE, it's an unenforceable invoice.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • mrputney08
    mrputney08 Posts: 132 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Photogenic Combo Breaker
    IGNORE THEM, YOU HAVE BEEN SCAMMED!!
    Private Parking Companies have no authority whatsoever to fine you, it's not worth the paper it's written on. Only the Council or Police are enforceable. You are merely the registered keeper of the car. They must prove you are the driver. Any appeals of yours will be laughed at. Use their paper for paper planes, burn them but don't pay!! If you pay they will surely come back for more, they are leeches!!
    See my thread for dealing with PARKING EYE.

    http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=46975

    They are spineless bullies, that is all.
  • esmerobbo
    esmerobbo Posts: 4,979 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    Parking Eye refusing an appeal now that's a surprise!! Not.

    Ignore the clowns.
  • 27col
    27col Posts: 6,554 Forumite
    What next? Er, nothing.
    I can afford anything that I want.
    Just so long as I don't want much.
  • notts_phil
    notts_phil Posts: 1,087 Forumite
    edited 17 July 2011 at 8:45AM
    You will get a letter from someone called john Mitchell in their so called legal department. Parking eye insist the guy exists but their hr team have never heard of him!!
    Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam
  • RENEGADE_2
    RENEGADE_2 Posts: 948 Forumite
    edited 16 July 2011 at 11:18PM
    If you don't wish to read the stickies, I'll give you an abridged recommended course of action and details - better that than leave new people in the cold!

    You have no debt to anybody. The demand is in every sense illegal as it amounts to a de facto penalty and this is something only authorities may issue. Legally, a private company may only seek actual losses (eg. by overstaying in a car park which would have cost you 50p extra, they can go after 50p and not a penny more). Furthermore, they need to prove who the driver was and the registered keeper, whose details they request from grandma (the DVLA), has no legal obligation to divulge this information even if he were the motorist. Following on, any attempts by the PPC or its third parties to press the registered keeper to provide driver details are unequivocal acts of harassment as you have no mandatory requirement to enter into conversation with those people. You are free as a citizen to communicate with police/authorities (including prosecution representing your opponent) only if that be your wish. CP Plus however will not go to court. They know these details only too well and are aware that they will lose and this is why they have no true appeals procedure, just a nominal ceremony not to draw attention to themselves but one in which they are guaranteed to reject any challenge.

    To this end, any correspondence to a PPC should always avoid the word "appeal" and be presented with a masterful tone that denies the legality of the demand outright. Of course, having "appealed" and admitted driving has given them a minor foothold - seeing your recognition of the document coupled with them no longer having to identify the driver - but so long as you are holding onto the money they want, the pressure is on them: they have to pay to have the matter dealt with in County Court and they also need to satisfy the tribunal that their appeal system was fair and that their demand (however big it be at the time of hearing) constitutes actual losses. They would do this by providing an analysis of how their ink, envelopes, paper, and your actions, has cost them the amount they claim. Why? Because this venture (you entering a private car park) is governed by Contract Law - NOT Criminal Law. No magistrates, no criminal record in the impossible event of losing in court, you just enjoy life and now discard everything from these vampires.
  • bondy_lad
    bondy_lad Posts: 1,001 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    couldnt have put it better renegade,,,,parking eye rejected an appeal,,surely not,,,surely yes,as we all no there is no appeal system you just lose, but hey whose gonna pay em?????
  • bondy_lad wrote: »
    couldnt have put it better renegade,,,

    I could-IGNORE.
    Much shorter.
    Went shoplifting at the Disneystore today.

    Got a huge Buzz out of it.
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