Nice people thread part 4 - sugar and spice and all things

silvercar

PasturesNew wrote: »

I never know what's on telly.... I change channels when the current one annoys me..... and then I flick through until I find something to replace it.

I've never found an efficient way of organising my viewing and discovering and remembering what's on, when and on which channel.

If you had Sky you could set the planner to record for you or to remind you when a programme is on. You could also use "series link" one button to press and the whole series is recorded.

michaels

No offer yet, bit busy with work pls lil bro who is in on the deal has gone on a delayed honeymoon to NZ so probably doesn't want to be bothered at the moment...

Not sure re the roof, it is the sandtoft 20/20 tiles which shold be good down to 12.5 degrees but there are three velux and the tiles do not lie flat where the flashing kit is and so I suspect one problem is that the rain has been blown up from here - I am also not sure if they are adequetely lapped for the pitch and the way they have cut and aligned the tiles round the windows may also be part of the problem but in theory the felt under the tiles should be stopping any leaks...There is also a flat section sort of like a crown, they have knapped the flat roof felt over the top of the tiles and then put a 'faux ridge' on top but again maybe there is leakage at this point. The flushing is also only a couple of inches high rather than the recommenced 100-150mm.

If you are dispensing building advice there is also an issue with the garage, one wall is a rendered single skin right on the neighbours boundary and the neighbours land is slightlly higher and the plaster on the bottom of this wall keeps looking slightly damp - any suggestions?

Doozergirl wrote: »

When we've done a roof that shallow, we made a flat roof underneath which met building regs so that the tiled area was operational, but there was a backup.

It's the wind that gets up it, hopefully it won't be like today very often.

Did you make an offer?

michaels

IC Steven Lawrence. Haven't watched the show but I'm not sure the Met need an excuse of racism to muck up an investigation and I'm a bit worried this will be quashed on appeal as the evidence as presented in the media suggested that the forensics had been badly mishandled at best.

It does annoy me a little that the BBC can go on about the police being institutionally racist but can not spot that they are institutionally left wing for exactly the same reasons of like minded people being drawn to the same place and group think reinforcing thought patterns. Same thing happens in Ther European parliament, those who take part are going to be those who spport the concept and, hey, they find everyone they meet also supports it so anyone who doesn't is clearly a small minded bigot...

vivatifosi wrote: »

Just watched Panorama. Two down, three to go.

Doozergirl

michaels wrote: »

If you are dispensing building advice there is also an issue with the garage, one wall is a rendered single skin right on the neighbours boundary and the neighbours land is slightlly higher and the plaster on the bottom of this wall keeps looking slightly damp - any suggestions?

No surprise there then!

Dry lining it would be cheapest. You can tank it, which is more expensive but won't last forever. Really you want to dig away on the neighbour's side and build a retaining wall to keep the damp away altogether. But it's the garage, so I doubt it's worth trying to persuade them... which means it will always be a wee bit of a problem.

fc123

vivatifosi wrote: »

Just watched Panorama. Two down, three to go.

I drove past the memorial today and saw a telly van waiting opposite plus 2 officers nearby...I didn't know the verdict was today.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/03/justice-for-stephen-lawrence?newsfeed=true

Long time coming.

Davesnave

fc123 wrote: »

I didn't get one. I couldn't work out the highlight text to see answers either. I highlighted and couldn't see them. What was I doing wrong?

You had to highlight after the text on the 'blank' bit of the page, where the writing was in white on a white background. For example:

LIKE THIS!:)

Pobby

Oh dear. Fine tooth comb day today. We went through the defence letter from my old lot and it really is riddled with lies. E-mailed my solicitor and talking tomorrow on the blower. Feel deflated and defeated. How can you defend a blatant lie? I see no way. Sometimes I wonder what laws are about? Mind you, what did I expect? The company often lied to suit themselves, why should they not lie on oath? Will let you know the outcome.

Well here we are with it pouring down, darn long dark days. On a brighter note I am not inflicted with Simply Come Dancing, or what ever it`s called at dinner. Already have in place the ear muffs and blind fold to avoid the mindless spin when the olympics start. Silver Jubilee, let them eat cake methinks.

Having never been on benefits, I really find that not my way in life. Yet what can you do apart from being grateful.

Poor Mrs. P is really in pain with her back. At long last has made an appointment with the Doc. Took mucho persuading but got there in the end. Poor lass had one of her " clients " she cares for verbally insulting her for no reason so floods of tears there. Nearly fell over as her company actually responded and complained to the said person.

Spoke to sis in law tonight, the one we are buying with. Coward of the County, opps ex hubby has still not had the guts to drag himself away from the younger bit. He might be a 95th Dan in self defence but to me is lower than a snakes belly in a rut. Her DD is moving in with her boyfriend. I like him and so she should but this is placing even more strain on the pennies. We do have decent savings and happy to not watch her get into debt.

Blinking heck well ranty here but at least with my MSE family I know I can do it and I thank the Lord for that.

Now on a brighter note, are house prices going up or down?

Generali

Pobby wrote: »

now on a brighter note, are house prices going up or down?

Yes they are. Which however depends on who you ask.

All the best to Mrs P's back and Poblet.

John_Pierpoint

Davesnave wrote: »

Our old diesel Transit van suffered with computer heebie-jeebies. Suddenly, its memory would become full, so it would start to misfire, backfire and run strangely. We called this a 'nervous breakdown,' because it still functioned, but not in a controlled way.

Our 'Man' didn't have the techie stuff to fix it, so he would take it to another man who did. I think the Hi-Tech man just downloaded everything into his machine, printed it out, and that was it. We'd get the van back working normally, long incomprehensible bits of printing and a bill for £50.

I think Mr Hi Tech was onto a good thing!

Mr Hi Tech sounds reasonable to me - The Ford agent charged me £74 plus VAT to plug in my car so the computer could tell me it was a blocked water filter [Not an intermittent "lift" pump].

My man in a van came along with a rubber clad computer, it looked like a small version of an emergency battery booster, and a huge ring of plug in computer programme chips )one for each variation of car. We cleared down the nonsensical list of errors and took the car for a trip along the bypass and sure enough it started to rebuild a nervous breakdown list of faults.
Unfortunately the nerds are putting more and more electronic functions on cars all the time - just more and more opportunities for "dust on the chips" to throw up spurious errors. I think I am dreaming of having an "M" registration and running it on chip fat - actually that thread goes quiet in the cold weather, it only works in the summer..

Pobby wrote: »

Oh dear. Fine tooth comb day today. We went through the defence letter from my old lot and it really is riddled with lies. E-mailed my solicitor and talking tomorrow on the blower. Feel deflated and defeated. How can you defend a blatant lie? I see no way. Sometimes I wonder what laws are about? Mind you, what did I expect? The company often lied to suit themselves, why should they not lie on oath? Will let you know the outcome.

I must confess that I have forgotten the details of your dispute.
Last year I was dragged into appearing as a witness in a complicated boundary / squatters rights dispute.
Having given my evidence, I was then allowed to sit in on the court and listen to the others evidence. The squatter/freeholder and the previous squatter/freeholder who had sold the plots, were pretty obviously lying through their teeth. The judge was not fooled but I felt he should have at least recalled the witnesses and given then a good "b0ll0cking" for perjury.
I'm afraid some people still have that 5 year old attitude of "it wasn't me I wasn't there" and going through a pantomime with a bible won't make any difference.

I believe there is still some haggling going on over how much and who pays what on total costs of 6 figures.

John_Pierpoint

michaels wrote: »

Not sure re the roof, it is the sandtoft 20/20 tiles which shold be good down to 12.5 degrees but there are three velux and the tiles do not lie flat where the flashing kit is and so I suspect one problem is that the rain has been blown up from here - I am also not sure if they are adequetely lapped for the pitch and the way they have cut and aligned the tiles round the windows may also be part of the problem but in theory the felt under the tiles should be stopping any leaks...There is also a flat section sort of like a crown, they have knapped the flat roof felt over the top of the tiles and then put a 'faux ridge' on top but again maybe there is leakage at this point. The flushing is also only a couple of inches high rather than the recommenced 100-150mm.

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This year I will be trying to "sprocket" at the eves and bring forward a lower pitch area of roof to make a covered "porch" on pillars effect.

Bit it is a very sheltered North East facing slope and the length of the rafters means that there will be a low volume of water running over the stretched bit of roof. I have been thinking about creating some sort of "tray" effect to catch any drips rather than rely on the normal sarking felt.

Wish me luck.

The use of roof tiles below their minimum recommended
roof pitch
If a roof tile is used on a roof which is below a manufacturers minimum recommended
roof pitch, then the risk of water ingress needs to be recognised, and the sub-roof, ie
underlay, battens etc, should be designed to take this risk into consideration.
Sandtoft does not have any recommendations on the design of a totally waterproof
sub-roof. However, we offer the following suggestions:-
Fix rigid sarking (eg waterproof plywood boarding) over rafters.
Lay underlay over rigid sarking.
Fix counterbattens over rigid sarking. Use length of nail which will give adequate
penetration into the rafter, assuming that the rigid sarking has no structural value.
Lay a second layer of underlay over counterbattens, allowing it to sag between
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Fix tiling battens onto counterbattens.

Type 1F* underlay is unsuitable in this situation. A more durable roofing underlay
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In some circumstances, where the risk of water penetration through the tiles may be
deemed to be low, it may not be necessary to construct the roof as described above.
For example, the rigid sarking and counterbattens could be omitted. Instead, two
layers of could be used, with increased laps and
laps staggered between the two layers.
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tiles or slates laid below the minimum recommend roof pitches stated in our Technical
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roofing tiles are to be fixed below the manufacturer's minimum recommended roof
pitch.
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November 09