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Nice people thread part 4 - sugar and spice and all things
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chewmylegoff, that's really valuable thanks. I've copied and sent these responses to him (including Misk's shoe suggestionchewmylegoff wrote: »this... not sure when fir went for an interview last, but competency based questions are all the rage now. when i interview people who haven't moved jobs for several years they are often very wrong-footed by being asked to provide examples of when they did things like "made a team operate more effectively" or some such other nonsense.
it is very difficult to pursuade HR to invite someone back for a second interview if they fail the competency based questions, even if they have a better CV than everyone else who has applied. at one point last year i was on the point of killing one of them when they were saying we couldn't put the best qualified person i've interviewed through to the next round, because he'd given a bit of a dodgy answer to a question around "working with stakeholders".
it is pretty frustrating having to interview lawyers with 10 years PQE on this basis...
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Chew's is very likely to be relevant as within industry, so especially helpful, thank you so much
edit: he's printed them out already. He thinks he'll be asked if sadistic boss was a problem as he's spoken to soe people who left and they have all been asked about him. He's spoken to someonewho did work in the team he's most een at this stage to join, and they didn't fin it suited him but think h would fit in really well and told him the things they were really interested in which tally well with dh, so he has a fair a chance as any one.
whats really weird is, up unitl he joined this firm we'd both worked in very different places and roles and lots of them, and all of a sudden the idea of leaving seems relly scary. It ight even be esier if he were being pushed IYswiM, rather than jumping.0 -
lostinrates wrote: »chewmylegoff, that's really valuable thanks. I've copied and sent these responses to him (including Misk's shoe suggestion).
Chew's is very likely to be relevant as within industry, so especially helpful, thank you so much
to be honest if he's been headhunted (properly, not just some !!!!py recruitment consultant getting him to apply for every job on his books) then i doubt they'll be any competency based nonsense - this is more used to try to filter people out at the first stage of interview when you have a significant number of applicants, but pretty much everyone uses them in interviews now so it's best to be prepared.
might as well just ask what the interview process will consist of, how many rounds there will be, whether there are competency based questions, whether there's a case study to do and present etc. they should tell you what the format will be unless they're a bunch of idiots. some interview processes are ludicrous with endless rounds - i spoke to someone the other day who got rejected at the 14th round. and i've heard of there being 40 rounds for a partnership somewhere. goldmans is rumoured to have about 100 rounds for some jobs but that's nonsense in my view.0 -
chewmylegoff wrote: »to be honest if he's been headhunted (properly, not just some !!!!py recruitment consultant getting him to apply for every job on his books) then i doubt they'll be any competency based nonsense - this is more used to try to filter people out at the first stage of interview when you have a significant number of applicants, but pretty much everyone uses them in interviews now so it's best to be prepared.
might as well just ask what the interview process will consist of, how many rounds there will be, whether there are competency based questions, whether there's a case study to do and present etc. they should tell you what the format will be unless they're a bunch of idiots. some interview processes are ludicrous with endless rounds - i spoke to someone the other day who got rejected at the 14th round. and i've heard of there being 40 rounds for a partnership somewhere. goldmans is rumoured to have about 100 rounds for some jobs but that's nonsense in my view.
LOL, he gets dozens of those calls, I think thy all do. For this one no recruiter involved...soe one told dh he himself was looking as h interested and dh said not then, then round about the time he as moved with no notice he asked if they were still looking and the other guy said yes, but even if we weren't actively looking I'd put your nae forward. so there we are, we'll see. dh will find all the round stuff out presently I guess. 14? how long does that take? I think once the decision is made to go elsewhere dh would want things to move reasonbly swiftly? Be nice if he could take a week off between job too.
Again, I really appreciate your input 0 -
Lydia....I notice you are on line...how are the kids today? and you? and your dad?0
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Round here the strike seems very unpopular. Without making any political points on the NPT, it seems to me that so many families rely on both partners working, that schools closing is so, so difficult to manage that people are very unhappy about it. Whereas in previous generations school being shut for a day didn't matter. I know of people agreeing to strike just to avoid conversations about whether to take annual leave/ emergency leave or how to sort their children out.
I didn't notice any effect, apart from central London being quieter in general....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
Strikes!!!! Old Thatch would be doing her head in if she was in power. In her tank, beating the filthy strikers with her umbrella. Getting the old bill earning loads of extra cash wading into the protesters and destroying whole communities as punishment. Can`t see our Dave up to the job. I very much remember the miners strike and am proud that a played a benefit gig on their behalf. Destroy a mining community and what is left? Nowt. Even now you can see the social results of what happened some 25 years later.
I don't think it was as simple as that. The miners' leaders were spoiling for a fight, and made a bad choice, picking one in the spring when coal stocks were at an all-time high.
But the coal industry was in the middle of a long, long decline anyway. The peak of production from coal mines in the UK was 1913....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
PasturesNew wrote: »Every person having to work an extra year (or an extra 7 in my case) is job-blocking a dole person's potential job .... so I don't get it really. Unless there's full employment only X will ever have a job, so why force those who have worked solidly, without a break for 50 years, to work extra?
As the Dragons say "I'm out"
My mother taught only at private girls' schools, as it happened. It wasn't a principle for her, but worked out that way.
She taught at Wycombe Abbey School for Girls (a boarding school), the City of London School for Girls (a day school) then part-time at the secondary day school my sisters and I attended....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
I think that is pretty similar to what HID said to me after I made the same observation when she entered the house using a credit card.
P.S. The good news was that the CC was unusable afterwards, which curbed spending for a few days :j
On the rare occasions when my sister and I got home from secondary school and no-one was in, and we'd forgotten our keys (normal), we went round the back, pushed the key in with a twig, reached through the cat flap, and got in that way.
We never mentioned it, as then my mother would have started using the bolt as well....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
lostinrates wrote: »As for not feeling well, you shoul be ill here, we could read books in bed in companionable silence. I miss that about flat sharing and uni and school...climbing into bed with friends to watch tv or read. As a married adult I don't have any bed friends any more.
I have a funny feeling that FIR might not be overjoyed at the idea........much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
lemonjelly wrote: »
who are they. Dad (it is also his birthday in december!) brother & sister in law, 2 nephews (both under 7), 3 cousins (all female, in their 20's) & their kids (got the eldest spiderman dvd's - the only one with any presents). 3 mates all in their 30's.
There are also a couple of cousins boyfriends who I should probably get a token kinda something for them.
OH's birthday is Boxing Day, so that's definitely a double whammy.
Nephews under 7 should be pretty easy - I'd go for a Science Museum kit of some sort, if they are remotely interested in things moving and working.
Dads are always a nightmare....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0
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